# Weapons **URL:** \ **Category:** Legal & Second Amendment\ **Created:** [June 7, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629 "2022-06-07T12:21:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/82 "2022-06-07T21:45:21Z")
I would like to propose that going out of our way to pretend that firearms are not weapons is not helping with the changing times or with what is accepted. That, IMO, just feeds the “nobody needs a \_\_\_\_ for hunting” as a justification for bans, for example.’ It’s not about hunting and it’s not about sporting competitions (the 2A and the Rights and Liberties, that is…if a person wants what they do to be about hunting or sporting purposes then by all means, have at it) ---
**Author:** ![Barry54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/barry54/32/55441_2.png) [@Barry54](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Barry54)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/83 "2022-06-07T21:47:46Z")
> [@Nathan57](#): > > I would like to propose Well start your own thread and go for it! You made your point and I feel I made mine. Thanks for the conversation today. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/84 "2022-06-07T21:58:52Z")
This thread is already about that exact topic. You are disappointed with people using the word weapon instead of firearm, but, there are other viewpoints to that. It’s just a discussion ---
**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/85 "2022-06-07T22:58:56Z")
> [@Brad](#): > > Their opinions/beliefs are not based on facts, but are unfounded aka, ignorance. That is not denigrating the person, unless they are unwilling to learn, it does not mean anything, but a lack of knowledge. I willingly admit I am ignorant of many things, and I have admitted, even on this site when I lack knowledge. No one can know everything; granted there are those that have far more knowledge than others, but it is impossible to know everything. We all know those that believe they do. ---
**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/86 "2022-06-07T23:02:16Z")
> [@Barry54](#): > > If firearms are weapons then the intent has to be for harming I prefer they be used for farming, not harming. Other than the issue with the lead, I believe a firearm makes a good holepunch. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/87 "2022-06-07T23:07:04Z")
> [@Nathan57](#): > > What about when a handgun is fired using two hands…does that mean it is now a rifle? Not according to the ATF that defines a pistol as a firearm designed to be fired with one hand. ---
**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/88 "2022-06-07T23:10:46Z")
> [@Mike270](#): > > The resident drugstore cowboy is flagging posts again. Who might that be? Jerzy assumed you meant him/her (insert proper pronoun here). ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/89 "2022-06-07T23:17:51Z")
Yes! What it’s designed to be, not what you do with it, is generally how names/descriptions come about. Like, if you had a legit actual military issue M4, and you never did anything with it but hang it on the wall in your FFL’s retail location as a showpiece, it would still be appropriate and correct (IMO, anyway) to call it an assault rifle even though all you did was wallhang it. Or when I took my Z28 to the strip, it was still a passenger vehicle street car and not a race car even though I was racing it on a track. ---
**Author:** ![deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@deactivated](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/deactivated)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/90 "2022-06-07T23:20:26Z")
Yeah, If my attacker used a firearm, I’d be more inclined to refer to it as gun or weapon. May I never ever have to use in SD, but if I ever did, I’d probably hope my lawyer uses the term “firearm”. Guess it depends on the situation. In mass shootings, I tend to think of it as a weapon/gun. I’d want to be truthful, and respectful; The chosen term is subjective and describes what the instrument was used for. ---
**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/91 "2022-06-07T23:27:39Z")
> [@deactivated](#): > > have to use in SD, but if I ever did, I’d probably hope my lawyer uses the term “firearm”. > > Guess it depends on the situation. in mass shootings, I tend to think of it as a weapon/gun. Self-defense firearms are weapons. Firearms used in crimes are weapons. Firearms solely used for target practice are not weapons, though like any other object could become a weapon, even if one does not fire a projectile from it. Even pocketbooks can become weapons. We try to avoid “trigger” words so as to placate the sheep to believe we are harmless, just like them. I am non-violent, but I will protect my wife and daughter by any means necessary within my ability. Do not infringe on my ability and I will not infringe on yours. ---
**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/92 "2022-06-08T06:37:28Z")
Let me get this straight, If I have a Ruger LCR .38Spc and it’s in a safe it’s a gun If I take it out of the safe it’s a firearm If I shot targets with circles on them it’s a firearm If I shoot target that are human silhouettes it’s a weapon If I put it on my belt and hide it it’s a firearm or is it a gun If I pull my shirt up and pull it out and point it at a person it’s a weapon If it get’s left in my Jeep it’s a gun OK I think I understand now… ---
**Author:** ![Layton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Layton](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Layton)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/93 "2022-06-08T09:51:58Z")
Barry,I didn’t mean to stir the pot,but to me the word weapon was drilled into my mind and every so called Fire arm is a weapon to me and a weapon is what kept me alive and I did survive so to me a weapon is a weapon,wont call them any thing else,they kept me alive where i was at ---
**Author:** ![Barry54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/barry54/32/55441_2.png) [@Barry54](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Barry54)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/94 "2022-06-08T10:25:09Z")
> [@Layton](#): > > to me the word weapon was drilled into my mind No worries. The second sentence of the first post addresses those of us who served and wore uniforms. ---
**Author:** ![Barry54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/barry54/32/55441_2.png) [@Barry54](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Barry54)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/95 "2022-06-08T10:58:54Z")
> [@Mike270](#): > > the word, weapon is used by people with too much testosterone or wimps who want to sound macho. The person Mike has seen in post 62 probably isn’t going to use the pink single shot from post two and create new firearms enthusiasts. OTOH the people who use the NRA training programs and work with the scouts with sporting arms, might be more likely to create new firearms enthusiasts. More food for thought. Optics Connotations ---
**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/96 "2022-06-08T13:43:45Z")
Closing in on gender options discussion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@deactivated](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/deactivated)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/97 "2022-06-08T21:51:41Z")
Or… maybe I should trade in for a pink colored one with a white pearl handle; Nic-name it ‘Bambi’. IDK. No wonder attorneys get paid the big bucks; I’d let them do the talking and I’d ‘sit in my hands’ . LOL. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bjorn/32/26608_2.png) [@Bjorn](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Bjorn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/98 "2022-06-09T01:02:36Z")
Personally, I would refer to the definition of the terms in my state’s weapon laws. Yes, GA issues WCLs, Weapons Carry Licenses. If a handgun (firearm) is not a weapon then I suppose it wouldn’t have been allowed to be carried under the law. Well, prior to the Constitutional carry bill was signed. Most definitions of the word weapon will include in its list firearms, used for offense or defense. Personally, I find it to be a question of semantics and almost anything can be a weapon, including firearms. Denying firearms original, primary purpose, does not change the fact that they are weapons. Just my longwinded $0.02. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Larry130](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/larry130/32/38689_2.png) [@Larry130](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Larry130)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/99 "2022-06-09T14:29:10Z")
Or, as I was taught in boot camp, I am the weapon, the firearm is my tool. We are getting way to caught up in nit picking IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bjorn/32/26608_2.png) [@Bjorn](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Bjorn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/100 "2022-06-09T16:14:59Z")
LOL, legal definitions aside, you’re absolutely correct, on both counts. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph424](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Joseph424](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Joseph424)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/weapons/82629/101 "2022-06-12T15:09:20Z")
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