# We need more laws!

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369>\
**Category:** News & Current Events\
**Created:** [February 14, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369 "2025-02-14T21:12:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/47 "2025-02-16T04:51:18Z")

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Are you paying alimony? 😂😂😂

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**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/48 "2025-02-16T05:33:06Z")

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> [@Robert1246](#):
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> I identify as we us.

Do you argue with yourself? If you make yourself mad do you have to sleep on the couch?

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/49 "2025-02-16T14:05:19Z")

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I have laid this all out in another post male, female and hermaphrodite … because they are not male or female they are a combination of both in different configurations … While they can choose a sex and be altered … God knows how all the people around here feel about that… They go all caveman about it… Choose a sex that is unamerican…

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/50 "2025-02-16T14:17:43Z")

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I don’t think that is true at all. It is a very small % of the population and many are altered for M or F at or near birth. Are they grossly misunderstood here compared to some other parts of the world? Sure. But just like skin color, it shouldn’t be their defining characteristic, for instance…to get a job.

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/51 "2025-02-16T14:30:13Z")

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Want to talk about being so far off. You guys do nothing but preach your hate and racist crap … You are too limited to even understand you do it …With you one brow protruding mandible and 1300cc brain … These disparities are complex and stem from various factors including socioeconomic conditions, policing practices, and sentencing disparities. I guess it is just easier to blame the ethnic kid for all the social ills … God knows you wouldn’t want to take a close look at yourself or your roll in this …  
Much easier to blame others like the left or an ethnic group or better yeah those Trans people …  
To hard for you guys just to grow up take responsibility for the roll, you played, in getting Biden elected with all the crap you say … I am not happy about it either but atleast I am SMART enough to understand why …  
Some of the silly azz crap you say … Not getting behind our president in Un-American . When two sentences earlier you were bashing the last president … Just clueless

thanks for the laugh … With you moral ASSertions … Or should I say baseless …

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/52 "2025-02-16T14:32:45Z")

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I agree brad. I gave the numbers of how many. I can look it up again. It was higher than even I thought but it does happen and should be identified as such…  
If it is naturally occuring … I think it should count just my opinion

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/53 "2025-02-16T14:37:45Z")

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Other cultures treat them as better/special. We don’t, but could. It is reported that it is “up to” 1.7%; not large, but not nothing either. And, of course, they’re human like the rest of us.

My $.02 is that what people lose their minds over is the people who act like lunatics and who are looking for attention and special treatment. They want to matter because of some odd view.

I bet that if it was addressed to citizens as a medical condition that isn’t always “treated” at birth, that enough Americans would rally and squash the loons who might seek to harm these people.

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/54 "2025-02-16T14:44:18Z")

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Yeah I went into depth about this in an earlier post. How some people don’t know. How they look like one of the sexes … but have different organs and were unable yo have kids … For me no numbers are to small … It is like mourning the loss of a hundred people but not one because it is insignificant … That’s just me…

I have a hard time saying. Sorry you don’t matter because we have the numbers …

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/55 "2025-02-16T14:52:21Z")

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From a heart standpoint, I think you have a lot of company around every person being important, but from a numbers game, it just can’t be true. If $1M was needed to get every person from nothing to something, we’d be out of money, so the first people would make it and the rest would be…well, living like our veterans, under a bridge.

America does a pretty great job of taking care of underprivileged (maybe wrong word) people here and abroad, but everyone can’t be taken care of, and the system(s) are ripe with abuse. Take care of your own and help others with what is left, not the other way around.

Still…people are entitled to their opinions. We live in a time when if you don’t say the right thing at the right time in the right way, you’re a terrible human. So much of America is getting by, even getting wealthy, on virtue signaling. People do not have to be virtuous, or even pretend to be. Some people have to make the big boy decisions and keep companies, families, countries running.

As you know, a few (apparently former) friends, after decades, kicked me off of our little mailing list. They were really hateful, using all of the leftist rhetoric of the day. Racist, bigot, homophobe, jew hater, etc. There’s no meat in the sandwich, but it makes them feel better, even superior, to use these words. I share this with my friends who happen to be black, jewish, bi/gay, whatever and they laugh because they know that people can have opinions and still be kind and helpful to one another.

We’re WAY off track, and neither side is helping. We’re using up our resources with an endless game of “is so, is not.” People should be smarter…but they aren’t. Every day is like watching Lefties Losing it.

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/56 "2025-02-16T15:03:05Z")

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No I don’t identify as myself. Unless I am by myself or I am writing to myself. Since you are here I identify as we/us. I guess one could say I am selfless unless I am by myself.

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**Author:** ![Will\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/will_b/32/102791_2.png) [@Will\_B](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Will_B)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/57 "2025-02-16T15:07:32Z")

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What the actual heck are you talking about?

Enzo is racist because he points out the statistic disparity of criminality between the races?

Ya know what? Im white, my kids grew up in this busted ass system even went to public school and got bullied!

They’ve never shot up a school!

In spite of me owning guns since before they could walk, in spite of being from a broken family (divorced)

But ohhhh,…. That’s right, their skin color gives them privileges!

And Enzo (and likely from your view I) are racist and contributory to the negligence and illegal actions of those kids in the article?

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/58 "2025-02-16T15:09:44Z")

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I agree this crap has gone to far … Look at all the years of the other side of the coin… Just like the unions or anything else they go to far with power … Unions had there place and will again … People used to die going to work … I forget the numbers but there are 100 people buried in the hoover dam… so thank you unions for fixing this and OSHA … Did they go to far … If we could only maintain the middle ground … Personally I do not think we need over 850 billionaires … When asked about pro athletes and how much they make … Yeah they get paid to much … I am glad they get it … Then the guy on top isn’t getting it all … Why because out of ten . 3 will blow the money it help keep the economy moving … 4 will start charities to help the community at large … 3 will be frugal … This is better for everyone. then the billionaire at the top getting it all … Soros and the koch brothers come to mind … See the problem…

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/59 "2025-02-16T15:11:24Z")

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> [@General\_Consensus](#):
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> hermaphrodite

I just dont see how there could be three. It would have to be one or the other neither or both. That would be four.

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/60 "2025-02-16T15:27:06Z")

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These disparities are complex and stem from various factors including socioeconomic conditions, policing practices, and sentencing disparities.

Did you miss this … There are more to it then ethnicity… Be smarter of what is driving the numbers …

Weird how in my upper middle class neighborhood … None of the ethnic kids are gang bangers … Stealing or even commiting crimes … I am sure they will later with a briefcase… then they will just get a slap on the hand like O.J. because they can afford good legal representation …  
BTW good job parenting your kids… I bet you spent time with them …Might be why they never shot up a school…  
As for him being racist … I do not know … Not understanding what drives the numbers does sound kind of racist… or just uninformed … so racist or just stupid maybe both or just one whatever the case …

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**Author:** ![Will\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/will_b/32/102791_2.png) [@Will\_B](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Will_B)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/61 "2025-02-16T16:01:37Z")

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Neither of us are racist.

Yes, we understand socioeconomic factors.

However, even in lower income communities based on ethnicity whites commit less crime per capita.

Why?

Culture.

It’s not education or intelligence.

It’s a perpetuated culture of “thug” and “resist/rise up against the white man” mentality amongst the “minority’s”

They do this to themselves.

I do not perpetuate it against them.

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/62 "2025-02-16T16:06:44Z")

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@Robert1246  
Ambiguous genitalia affect approximately 1 in 5,000 live births. Experts estimate that up to 1.7 percent of the population are born with intersex traits. Now these traits manifest themselves in different ways. This is about genetic makeup… What is considered “True Hermaphrodites” are about (0.02%–0.05%) of the population …  
Intersex traits refer to variations in sex characteristics that do not fit the typical binary definitions of male or female. You may have a male organ and female ovaries … There are a number of configurations, also the genetic abnormality with the configuration (X & Y) chromosomes …  
If you ever wondered why someone can’t have kids … One possible reason are do to intersex traits . Along with a host of other possibilities… Some configurations do not reveal themselves to the naked eye… 🤣 🤣 🤣 naked, reveal , I crack myself up …

Hope this helps 🧐

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/63 "2025-02-16T16:19:23Z")

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Yes I agree… The most hideous of these are the social implications … Cultural repression placed upon you by your own peer group… This happens in all economic levels … Sadly it is more prevalent in lower income brackets in cities …  
I mentioned this early … How do you break this culture … This is why I advocate educations… The people in my neighborhood do not immerse themself in the thug culture… They got away from it. No more peer pressure or economic strife… They have an education and superior employment … We really need a return of the middle class…

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**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/64 "2025-02-16T16:24:18Z")

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> [@Will\_B](#):
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> However, even in lower income communities based on ethnicity whites commit less crime per capita.

You got me thinking do caucasians in the hood. Commit more crime than those of their counterparts in more influential neighborhoods… I wonder if anyone has done a study … LOL thanks you gave me something to look up … I would bet they do..

This conversation reminds me of a show that I liked “Shameless”

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**Author:** ![Will\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/will_b/32/102791_2.png) [@Will\_B](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Will_B)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/65 "2025-02-16T17:10:39Z")

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Per capita vs higher income categories focusing on strictly Caucasian?

Yes I’m betting that statistic is higher.

However if you’re going to waste money on a study like that based on race….

Then you need to track the per capita population across all races and all incomes to be able to draw a fair comparison.

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**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/we-need-more-laws/113369/66 "2025-02-16T20:22:30Z")

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> [@Karacal](#):
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> Do you argue with yourself? If you make yourself mad do you have to sleep on the couch?

Um?..I thought it was the Garage? REAL MEN SLEEP IN THE GARAGE!

Folk’s take a Breath for a second (re-read some of the ABOVE GC posts…)  
OK?  
Now, connect the dots…  
WHO THINKS GENERAL Consensus, Ted64 et al are ‘BOT’S?  
Think on this before answering  
Why would any ‘Rational’ human being waste their time RAILING  
on this PRO-GUNNER forum Every single time they post their nonsense?  
True, occasionally they ‘go along’ with a thread/Post proving their kinship  
with other like minded Gunners here, even saying ‘Mea Culpa’ I was  
out of line before’. Who the duck believes when they do that? (crickets amirite?)  
DON’T BUY INTO THEIR CHARADE.  
It’s meant to disrupt us that’s all.  
It’s like the LEFT’s attempt to discredit DOGE, Trump, Elon and company  
Who’s winning here?  
It ain’t the Demoncrat Mob I can tell you that.  
These…AREN’T REAL

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