# Trump Verdict

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous\
**Created:** [May 31, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026 "2024-05-31T18:41:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/1 "2024-05-31T18:41:43Z")

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I cannot believe that jury convicted him. They certainly did not use any evidence nor testimony provided during the trial. The star witnesses for the prosecution both committed perjury and ironically also stated Trump did not recommend, coerce, imply, etc., them to do anything they did. Perkins even stated several times that Trump told him he would not pay for a story because he knew it would eventually get out anyway. The prosecution did not state what crime(s) Trump committed and there was no evidence of any crime presented.

I believe there will be some serious blowback, but not the violence the Left is hoping for, except likely from them. We need to be vigilant, the Left now has full immunity from prosecution.

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/2 "2024-05-31T19:02:02Z")

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Here’s my deal. IF there was only one document in question how did we get to 34 felonies?

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**Author:** ![Byron27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Byron27](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Byron27)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/3 "2024-05-31T19:10:34Z")

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Did you attend the court trial? I believe he did something, but I am unsure what thus trial means anyway. This is only the verdict. The sentencing was even baught up. The news reporters are ONLY soeculating a lot.

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/4 "2024-05-31T19:24:23Z")

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Nope, Loved my vacation to NYC last year but there’s very little there for me, I stay in the west.

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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/5 "2024-05-31T19:26:31Z")

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> [@Byron27](#):
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> I believe he did something

Yet the prosecution did not mention what the crime(s) were, and the prosecution’s witness testimony did not indicate any crimes, other than theirs, nor any evidence of Trump committing any crimes, again, other than theirs. The testimony is available online to read.

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**Author:** ![CombatCanine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/combatcanine/32/115622_2.png) [@CombatCanine](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/CombatCanine)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/6 "2024-05-31T19:30:31Z")

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just looked it up here’s what he’s charged with:

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. today announced the indictment of DONALD J. TRUMP, 76, for falsifying New York business records in order to conceal damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election. During the election, TRUMP and others employed a “catch and kill” scheme to identify, purchase, and bury negative information about him and boost his electoral prospects. TRUMP then went to great lengths to hide this conduct, causing dozens of false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to violate state and federal election laws.

TRUMP is charged in a New York State Supreme Court indictment with 34 counts of Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.

“The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” said District Attorney Bragg. “Manhattan is home to the country’s most significant business market. We cannot allow New York businesses to manipulate their records to cover up criminal conduct. As the Statement of Facts describes, the trail of money and lies exposes a pattern that, the People allege, violates one of New York’s basic and fundamental business laws. As this office has done time and time again, we today uphold our solemn responsibility to ensure that everyone stands equal before the law.”

According to court documents and statements made on the record in court, from August 2015 to December 2017, TRUMP orchestrated his “catch and kill” scheme through a series of payments that he then concealed through months of false business entries.

In one instance, American Media Inc. (“AMI”), paid $30,000 to a former Trump Tower doorman, who claimed to have a story about a child TRUMP had out of wedlock.

In a second instance, AMI paid $150,000 to a woman who alleged she had a sexual relationship with TRUMP. When TRUMP explicitly directed a lawyer who then worked for the Trump Organization as TRUMP’s Special Counsel (“Special Counsel”) to reimburse AMI in cash, the Special Counsel indicated to TRUMP that the payment should be made via a shell company and not by cash. AMI ultimately declined to accept reimbursement after consulting their counsel. AMI, which later admitted its conduct was unlawful in an agreement with federal prosecutors, made false entries in its business records concerning the true purpose of the $150,000 payment.

In a third instance – 12 days before the presidential general election – the Special Counsel wired $130,000 to an attorney for an adult film actress. The Special Counsel, who has since pleaded guilty and served time in prison for making the illegal campaign contribution, made the payment through a shell corporation funded through a bank in Manhattan.

After winning the election, TRUMP reimbursed the Special Counsel through a series of monthly checks, first from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust – created in New York to hold the Trump Organization’s assets during TRUMP’s presidency – and later from TRUMP’s bank account. In total, 11 checks were issued for a phony purpose. Nine of those checks were signed by TRUMP. Each check was processed by the Trump Organization and illegally disguised as a payment for legal services rendered pursuant to a non-existent retainer agreement. In total, 34 false entries were made in New York business records to conceal the initial covert $130,000 payment. Further, participants in the scheme took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the reimbursements.

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**Author:** ![CombatCanine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/combatcanine/32/115622_2.png) [@CombatCanine](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/CombatCanine)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/7 "2024-05-31T19:35:27Z")

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They did the accusations were (contrary to popular belief) not paying hush money but rather trying to cover up the fact that he did them. “supposedly” he did things related to this 34 times.

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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/8 "2024-05-31T19:36:53Z")

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I meant at trial. His opening statement. Again, the prosecution’s witness testimony only pointed to their crimes, not any crimes Trump supposedly did. In fact, in both Perkins’ and Cohen’s testimony, they both admitted Trump did not ask, propose, imply or anything, that he wanted them to do what they did. Perkin’s stated several times that Trump stated he would not pay for stories, which completely destroys the prosecution’s claim.

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**Author:** ![Ron43xMOS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/ron43xmos/32/137450_2.png) [@Ron43xMOS](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ron43xMOS)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/9 "2024-05-31T20:26:24Z")

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You’re getting bogged down in details and facts.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/10 "2024-05-31T20:27:50Z")

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That’s easy. Orange man bad.

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**Author:** ![CombatCanine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/combatcanine/32/115622_2.png) [@CombatCanine](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/CombatCanine)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/11 "2024-05-31T20:34:52Z")

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I have 2 answers for that choose one

_Poll ([view on site](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/11))_

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/12 "2024-05-31T22:22:04Z")

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/13 "2024-05-31T22:28:44Z")

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Removed,and added next post below.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/14 "2024-05-31T22:32:47Z")

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> [@CombatCanine](#):
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> Manhattan is home to the country’s most significant business market. We cannot allow New York businesses to manipulate their records to cover up criminal conduct.

GG you can copy and paste an indictment. The fact patterns do not support that supposition, nor did eyewitness testimony from the people involved.

Now it’s time for the unintended consequences to start.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/4/6/46d866a8223f4ca8c54cd67a4dc4558f7a501d31.jpeg "Real estate investor says after Trump ruling, 'nobody wants to do business' in NYC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1w_bGdJY1Q)

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**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/15 "2024-06-01T00:44:34Z")

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> **[Trump Releases Campaign-Style Video: “The best is yet to come”](https://www.wtrf.com/news/trump-releases-campaign-style-video-the-best-is-yet-to-come/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump released a campaign-style video on his social media site Truth Social on Monday, August 8, just hours after news broke of an FBI search of his…

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/16 "2024-06-01T01:09:49Z")

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If you ever WANTED to Commit STATE Suicide New York went and did it!  
The Fallout is going to be Tremendous!  
The Appeal (to a higher Court no doubt) will over turn the Conviction  
M$ney is POURING in to the Trump Camp ! Avg $34 at a time I gave (10) times!  
($1.00 for each count----fitting 'ey?)  
Big business will MOVE out! Investment Bankers were already leaving on this Lawfare

Once A big steaming pile of Feces is rolling who volunteers to stop it?  
Bragg and company HAD to do this, Mershan HAD to do this! Soros put them in he  
could easily destroy them! But the real unseen problem is now they are ‘Gloating!’  
High Fives, Victory dances ding dong the Trump Witch is dead!  
Not so fast my ignorant little evil bastardos! I will refer to my little list of stupid despots  
who destroyed themselves in their quest for Immortality and Wealth.  
Marie Antionette (her head made the first Bucket list–wicker!  
Stalin  
Hitler (Bunker Boy)  
Wacky Kadaifi  
Usama Mama  
I could go on for days. Fun List!

Just don’t count your money at the Table—K.Rogers  
Trump may be some things but to prematurely count him down and is is just stupid.

HE WILL BE IN THE BIG CHAIR COME JANUARY 2025—he just has to fumigate it first  
from Diaper Rash Joe (and the Fly’s oh the Fly’s!) Yuck!

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/17 "2024-06-01T03:30:57Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/6/3/637d27b394929b8d5b5146048c608e00a56db164.jpeg "Elon Musk Notices Something About the Trump Verdict No One Noticed") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1b8VT2VWsA)

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/18 "2024-06-01T13:59:17Z")

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> **[SHAM JUSTICE Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep844](https://rumble.com/v4yp6dt-sham-justice-dinesh-dsouza-podcast-ep844.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Dinesh%20D%27Souza)**
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> In this episode, Dinesh lays out the sobering implications of Trump’s guilty verdict. Debbie and Dinesh discuss what this means for Trump, and what impact this outcome will have on the 2024 election.

A great analysis of the situation by former Reagan advisor and my friend: Dinesh D’Souza who had a similar situation under Obama, and who had a conversation with Trump several years ago where Trump said that he fully expected the Left to try to stop him using the courts…

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/19 "2024-06-01T14:26:10Z")

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2 unfounded impeachments. Was there any doubt about what the verdict in this case would be?

Nope. At least not in my mind.

Please don’t get your panties in a wad over my comment. This is only my opinion.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/trump-verdict/104026/20 "2024-06-01T14:46:05Z")

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Honestly Im New To Usccxa Also Im Not A Computer Person I Do My Best Tho

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