I carry an EDC kit with me everywhere I go. it’s been habit for many years. Its season specific also. As for helping an attacker. possibly not. But it would be one of those 1 sec decisions 
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100% correct. If I just shot the guy, I am not going to get close enough for that person to harm me. Very likely that person would be seeking retribution after being shot for their stupidity of trying to harm me or a family member.
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Well, Nathan I see that you can foretell the future. It is really helpful to be able to know what the closing argument of the prosecuting attorney will be. I think you have a future in criminal defense. You could hire out to defense attorneys being able to predict what closing argument will cover.
I on the other hand, lacking that ability, just muddle through as best I can. I am inclined to think I would not attempt to treat an assailant as I lack formal medical training and am concerned if I am not successful in my attempts at treatment, I might face civil suite because of my failure. That’s why I pay taxes, to pay the salaries of public EMTs who are trained and have a much more extensive list of equipment and supplies. For example, they have a portable EKG machine. I don’t happen to carry one in my trunk. They carry Ringer’s solution and plasma in their emergency vehicle. Nope, no Ringer’s in my first aid kit and I am fresh out of plasma. I do have a tourniquet but have never had to apply it in a real situation, only practice where the person I was practicing on was not squirting blood across the room and wasn’t all slick with blood and thrashing around but was just laying perfectly still while I put on the cuff.
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I think you misunderstood my post.
If you do NOT carry a first aid kit, there is no way for the prosecutor to say “why didn’t you use your first aid kit on the guy who just tried to stab you”
I don’t need to tell the future or be an attorney to know they won’t use the fact that you had an IFAK and didn’t use it against you in court, when you in fact did not have an IFAK
Obvious counter-arguments aside (i.e. "a first aid kit is for helping others, not hurting others; does wearing a seat belt imply that I planned to be involved in a car accident?), has this ever worked in court? I’ve heard lawyers make plenty of dumb arguments during a trial, but not every argument helps a prosecutor’s case.
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I recall some big examples. (I’m not a lawyer so maybe these weren’t dumb, but, they didn’t really strike a cord with me)
Kyle R’s prosecution trying to argue Call of Duty the video game
George Z’s prosecution implying that the injuries could have been caused by running into tree branches because there were trees in the area of the incident
George’s prosecution insisting that it would be impossible to draw a pistol from a holster on his belt with a person on top of him (groundfighting mount position)
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Makes perfect sense to me! I will never humanize a threat. The situation would never have happened had the threat not occurred. The level of force would never have been necessary, had there not been a threat aimed at taking my “life!”
The IFAK is for me! Hence, the Individual First Aid Kit (IFAK). Its primary purpose is rendering first aid to myself, for myself! Additionally, I may not be qualified to extend first aid to another. While the shoot may have been just…if one seeks to render first aid, but the perp subsequently expires, that may be further cause to question the actual threat to life, and it could be spinned to claim the person rendering aid was being more sinister, torturous or even more heinous!
Furthermore, If am not injured, I have the option to try and apply emergency first aid measures to an innocent victim while waiting for EMTs to arrive to apply better aid. As for the perpetrator, there would never have been a need had they not brought the resulting action upon themselves. In effect, they begged for what they received. Why try to humanize that?! The IFAK is primarily for the individual carrying it. That’s my story, and I’ll be sticking to it.
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In Combat lifesaver scenarios I would use the soldier I’m trying to give aid for IFAK. In turn someone helping me would use mine for me.
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To IFAK. 100%
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Most would say in all but a self defense situation due to legal after effects of it.911 would include EMS. Good to hearv from you Zavier_D
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Hey Zavier, I am transitioning to a new desktop this weekend. Haven’t been on as much due to being out and about.The Op system of my old one is out of date and needs to be retired. Will be more active in the community once it’s online.
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