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No, as a matter of fact “Heck NO!” By the way it’s not pettiness. It’s actually a principle I have.

I refuse to join or support an organization that has a corrupt leadership, knows it has a corrupt leadership and won’t change. In addition, it sells away our rights at every convenient opportunity. The only thing the NRA does is compromise, compromise, compromise, and get absolutely nothing in return. I don’t need anyone else “bending me over” and telling me that they are here to help. The government does a “good enough” job of that already.

Red Flag Laws - NRA was involved. The NRA has “paid” almost 45 million dollars of your money to “support Senators and Congressmen” that just sold you out on the latest bill passed through the U.S. Senate. Are you happy with how your money was spent? How is that return on investment going?

Bump Stock bull crap - NRA involved - If you are not going to vigorously fight for us, get the heck out of the way. Their response to the rules change from ATF was laughable. Everytime the NRA decides it’s going to side with democrats and RINOs our rights get chipped at.

Constitutional Carry - they want to take credit for it, but other organizations actually worked much harder to get this through.

I’m done giving money and support to an organization that does not aggressively support OUR RIGHTS, and takes most opportunities to advice politicians on how to “infringe less”. Infringement is infringement there is not a degree of it that is acceptable. Until the NRA decides to actually FIGHT for our rights rather than just put out milquetoast press releases they can go pound sand. I will never spend another dollar on this corrupt organization.

Support organizations that actually support us and actually DON’T COMPROMISE on our rights. Our rights are NON-NEGOTIABLE.

If you don’t know what organizations to support, pick one or support all of these:

  1. Gun Owners of America - https://www.gunowners.org/
  2. Firearms Policy Coalition - https://www.firearmspolicy.org/
  3. Second Amendment Foundation - https://www.saf.org/
  4. any of the various local 2A Defense Leagues and organizations - Find your local one or you can support mine - Virginia Citizen’s Defense League - https://vcdl.org/

If Gun Owners of America and the Firearms Policy Coalition had the resources the NRA has we’d probably have a very different outlook on our 2A rights at this time. Give your money to organizations that actually do the work, and work for you. The NRA is not one of those, IMO.
The NRA had a chance to win me back this past voting period if their leadership had gotten rid of the cancer that is Wayne LaPierre and his corruption. They showed their true colors then and there. The entire leadership of that organization is a waste, IMO.

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I think this is true. But also, the NRA takes all the political and social heat from anti-2A groups. When the school shooting happened in Uvalde, they didn’t go after GOA, they went after the NRA. That leaves the smaller groups more free to do their work.

I’m not out to convince anyone to join or avoid the NRA, but I recognize the important role they play.

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If the NRA did not have such corrupt leadership I might even support them, but in all honesty I can’t. I find it counterproductive, dishonest, and simply deluded on our part to have the 800 pound gorilla of the NRA being a policy arm for politicians that compromise our rights. Meanwhile we have other smaller more effective organizations undoing the wrecking ball work of the NRA.

Think about it and do some investigative homework, of all the 2A infringements passed in the last 10 years by congress or your local government, how many of them had the backing of the NRA, or had been crafted with the help of the NRA? Red Flag laws are the most egregious, but are not the only ones.

So congress passes unconstitutional laws with the help and support of the NRA, and then the NRA gets to “fight” against those laws? I find that hypocritical. Just like the politicians that create the problems, and then ask you to give them more power so they can solve them.

No, I’m not impressed with this organization. Their training might be great, but their politics, and leadership are despicable.

When it comes to the U.S. Constitution, I’m an absolutist. You either support the text and spirit of it, or you do not. There is no gray area when it comes to the 2A, just like there is no gray area about the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th. How many of those RIGHTS do Red Flag Laws violate in whole or in part? Yet when it came time to actually fight for those rights the NRA caved at every opportunity

Let’s not fool ourselves, if we are giving money to the NRA, we are supporting an organization that has slowly chipped away at our constitutional rights. They say they are working to protect our 2A rights, but are they really?

When the NRA caves to the demands of the anti-rights crowd that is used as talking points by those that want to take away your rights. Have you ever heard something like this, “most gun owners support X or Y gun control measure”? Where do you think they come up with that? If the NRA supports stripping away your rights, the anti-rights crowd is going to say “Most Gun Owners”. They might be wrong (it’s not most gun owners), but it is a really hard thing to fight against.

How are we holding them, the NRA, accountable? I hold them accountable by voting with my dollars - the ONLY thing they understand. So NONE of my dollars will ever go to it. I don’t even do the “donate to the NRA” checkboxes when I purchase from MidwayUSA or other 2A vendors. I take that money and I give it to those that work for my same goals. Not to those that undermine our rights, and then ask for money to solve the problem they were complicit in creating.

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Yep. Not a single penny since the WLP scandal.
His supporters may put it in more pleasant terms but it’s still a scandal.

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Thanks, hadn’t heard about Firearms Policy Coalition. Looked at their web, signed up. They seemed a little more mature and tame, IMHO, at first look. Great.

Funny thing I noticed:

When I bought online from Midwest USA store, at the very last step when paying for what’s “in the cart”, the store offers a click/icon to donate or round up to donate to the NRA. But also interesting was the store posted how much was raised just by that “page” alone, and the dollar amount was astronomically high.

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@Burdo when you get to comment on your purchase tell them that you would like the option to donate to other entities, and list GOA, FPC, etc. as options. That is what I do all the time I order from MidwayUSA.

Welcome to the FPC.

Please note that all these entities (GOA, FPC, NRA, etc.) will continue to ask for money. Don’t get ticked off about it. These organizations always need money to continue to operate. I just find that my money is better spent on GOA, FPC and VCDL than giving money to NRA. Just my opinion, based on my research on the organizations. GOA particularly is THE no compromise 2A organization and they have proven they put their money where their mouth is. Take a look at their legislative win record.

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In my state" there is no restriction on the amount of rounds for rifles" So help me GOD.

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I am an NRA Endowment Life Member and I approve this message.
I also support GOA, SAF, and PAFOA.

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The Late Great National Rifle Association …R.I.P.

Ammoland Inc. Posted on January 25, 2023 by F Riehl, Editor in Chief

Opinion by Former NRA Director-Rocky Marshall.

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Fairfax, VA – -(AmmoLand.com)- To NRA Members: IT IS OVER!

The NRA’s financials are spiraling rapidly towards insolvency, and the future appears bleak for the survivability of the NRA, which may be forced into bankruptcy (for real this time) in the coming months. The next and final chapter for the NRA will be in a bankruptcy court, where a Judge will likely appoint a “Receiver” to take control of the assets of the NRA.

The NRA has been thriving for over 150 years; but will likely not survive until the end of this year.

This once great organization is now facing dissolution as the direct result of malfeasance by Wayne LaPierre and the impotent Board of Directors (BOD). Undoubtedly, key management personnel, including Wayne Lapierre, Wilson Phillips, and others, will likely face criminal charges for embezzlement, fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, and other charges.

The NRA, in the coming months, will not be able to pay outstanding bills or maintain staff to fulfill the mission due to the rapid decline of donations by members. In 2016, NRA revenues reached a peak of $367 million and currently is projected to receive $200 million for the current fiscal year 2022. The collapse in donations is directly related to the revelations that the NRA Management misused millions of dollars of donations for personal benefit. The misuse of NRA monies by NRA Management and the BOD has been reported as far back as 1998 when a complaint was filed by NRA Directors with the FEC.¹

A question that is often repeated is: “Why did the NRA BOD allow Wayne Lapierre and others to misuse the donations & defraud the members?”

The most obvious answer is that a few key Directors were being paid. From 2002 through 2020, over $10 million dollars have been paid directly or indirectly to NRA Directors. A secondary issue is that NRA Directors were not informed and also routinely presented false information by NRA Officers and Management in order to hide the truth. During my tenure as an NRA Director, I was routinely denied access to information and also received blatantly untrue information from NRA officers. The NRA BOD has not provided proper fiduciary oversight of the NRA for decades. The NRA BOD could have easily stopped the fraud and mismanagement by Wayne LaPierre (and others) but instead chose to ignore the obvious illegal activities. The BOD audit committee (chaired by the current President, Charles Cotton) approved transactions retroactively without BOD approval.

The current lawsuit from the New York Attorney General will likely not go to trial; but, instead, will be superseded by a forced bankruptcy.

The negative press reports from these legal filings will continue to drive donors away, and revenues will decline. As a former Director for the NRA, I have researched the complaints by the New York Attorney General and found all charges to be true. I could not identify a single charge that was untrue or exaggerated. As has been reported, Wayne Lapierre has admitted to several of the charges in the previous bankruptcy trial in Dallas.

Historians and columnists will report in future years that the NRA was destroyed from within by the greed of NRA Management Wayne LaPierre, Woody Phillips, (and others) and also by the lack of oversight by the NRA Board of Directors. Collectively this group has destroyed the most valuable gun rights organization on the planet.

Rocky Marshall
Former NRA Director – 2021
NRA Life Benefactor Member

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If this column concerns you, I recommend following the NRA in Danger blog, including reading older articles there.
You may be shocked how big a mess is at NRA, and how long it has been festering.

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That’s a shame, because they do a lot of great things. I’m impressed with their youth programs and some of the NRA tournaments that I’ve seen.

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I AM AN. NRA , :bangbang::us::100: USCCA ELITE MEMBER​:bangbang::100::us::chile:. And I BLEAVE IN BOTH​:bangbang::100::100::100::us::us::us::chile: Bobby Jean and no marry Jane :bangbang:. Debbie ann AMEN :latin_cross::chile:

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In 20,19, I was a member, of the NRA AND SOME ONE STOLE THE MONEY AND I QUIT :bangbang:and now this last month :bangbang: I JOINED AGAIN :bangbang::100: AND WE ALL NEED THE USCCA :bangbang::100::100::100: FOR TRAINING :100::100::100::100::bangbang:AN THE NRA, we have to know how to use our FIREARMS AND BE INSURED AND SUPPORT OUR RIGHTS TO BAREARMS WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO LOSE OUR FREEDOM TO DEFEND OURSELVES Bobby Jean

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Join the NRA now. Wayne needs new suits and a upgrade on that Lear jet. He works hard trying to look like he is opposing gun control while he is actually the friendly opposition.

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I will so, personally, my biggest and strongest memory of Wayne is from the early 2013 senate judiciary committee hearings in which Ted Cruz tossed him big fat slow soft pitch right over the plate and he Wayne basically struck out with 3 swings on the same pitch. I wished I had been there to testify in place of Wayne and respond to Ted’s questions myself, it would have made us/gun owners/NRA look so much better.

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I am an Endowment Life member of the NRA, but they won’t see another penny from me until they implement some real structural reforms.

I’m a Life member of Second Amendment Foundation as well as Gun Owners of America. I’m also a Life member of Arizona Citizens Defense League.

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I Joined the NRA :bangbang:and asked them when my membership card was going to come in the mail and they were rude and they said they told me and I just did not understand what they said and I said I know I joined last month but when would I get my membership card and I told them my email is Jakeann [email protected] and that is the only one I. Have an they want :bangbang: more than that THATS how to get ahold of me and anyone else that wants to can get ahold of me Bobby Jean at my email I only have one and THE NRA SAID THEY NEED MORE THAN THAT AND THATS ALL Bobby Jean GOD Bless :latin_cross::us::chile::100:

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There was no insurrection January 6,th and every thing you just say is wrong :bangbang: BECAUSE AT THE TIME PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT CALL FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO FIGHT OR I WOULD HAVE SEEN DAM NEAR EVERY ONE I KNOW AT THE CAPITAL WITH GUNS :bangbang::100::chile:AND THEY WERE NOT EVEN :bangbang: GOING THERE SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE​:bangbang::100::100::100::latin_cross::chile: OR THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A UN CIVIL WAR THERE AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE AND IT WAS MORE PEACEFUL THAN SEATTLE WA :bangbang::100:. We have seen sanctuary cities burning down the police STASHIONS and courthouses and business an they called that peace demonstrations :bangbang::broken_heart: THE BRITISH BURNED DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THAT WAS AN INSURRECTION :broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart:Not January 6,th. Please don’t DRINK THE KOOLADE Bobby Jean :latin_cross::us::chile::100::broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart::broken_heart:TRULY :100::100::100:

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I was a Member of the NRA in 2919 and they miss placed the money so I quit not I am A MEMBER AN THEY STILL HAVE NOT SENT ME MY MEMBERSHIP CARD :bangbang: and who answered the phone was lost an Never heard of me :bangbang: HAW HAW AND I SAID I JUST PAID YOU LAST MONTH HAW HAW WE ARE :bangbang:AMERICA ALL MESSED UP SO I AT LEAST HAVE THE USCCA FOR TRAINING AND THEY SEEM SOLID AS ANY :bangbang::100: IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA :us: Bobby Jean :us::chile::100::100::100::100::100::bangbang::bangbang::bangbang:

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OK, at one point I was, at the very most, ambivalent about the NRA. I was not going to support them with my dollars, but at the same time I was not angry at those that support the organization. Any ambivalence I had is gone. NEVER, EVER, EVER will I support the NRA in any fashion, and you shouldn’t either.

Please stop giving your hard earned money to an organization that IS NOT OUR advocate when it comes to the second amendment. If you keep doing so, you are willfully funding gun control against yourself and all of us.

Support organizations that actually support us and actually DON’T COMPROMISE on our rights. Our rights are NON-NEGOTIABLE.

If you don’t know what organizations to support, pick one or support all of these:

  1. Gun Owners of America - https://www.gunowners.org/
  2. Firearms Policy Coalition - https://www.firearmspolicy.org/
  3. Second Amendment Foundation - https://www.saf.org/
  4. any of the various local 2A Defense Leagues and organizations - Find your local one or you can support mine - Virginia Citizen’s Defense League - https://vcdl.org/

If Gun Owners of America and the Firearms Policy Coalition had the resources the NRA has we’d probably have a very different outlook on our 2A rights at this time. Give your money to organizations that actually do the work, and work for you. The NRA is not our friend, wake up!

I’m a veteran, and for me, this was the last straw:

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