The Aftermath: Attorney Killed in Family Dispute

Welcome to the family brother @Thomas566 and God bless you

Welcome to the family brother @David1291 and you are blessed to be here.

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Ten to one there was alcohol involved. I feel the shooter did the right thing. He already had a gun pointed at him and trying to drive away may not have happened and he might have been shot.

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Thank you

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I guess in some situations you could say…woulda…coulda… shoulda. Sometimes you don’t get a second chance to stay alive. Does the old time axiom apply when you perceive a deadly threat?..shoot first…ask questions later. I would say that attempting to avoid dangerous situations in the first place is the best policy.

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Plus… Getting to eat some pecan pie!

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When anyone in my house is emotional my carry gun gets locked up. I have made a pact with myself to never lose my temper when i am carrying or at the range, etc. I went to range with my son a couple of weeks ago and he got angry with his sister on the cell phone. I warned him if he did not calm down we were leaving. He did not calm down and so we left and went home. No guns.

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I do a mental exercise every day. Repeating myself " Is better to live in peace than winning an argument".
I’m a war veteran with lot of years and found out that must of the arguments don’t solve the issue, because you focus on the person and not in the real problem or discrepancy.

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I know the answer is to walk away or drive away, however as a therapist I also know once anger turns to rage, the neurotransmitters flooding the brain make rational thinking almost impossible. This is where the ā€œanti-gunā€ activists always argue their point. Responsible firearm owners will NEVER use their firearm to just make a point or attempt to end an argument when lives aren’t at risk. We are all threatened by irresponsible gun owners.

There is a a rule about owning or carrying a firearm. When you decide to own one, and particularly when you decide to carry a firearm, you forfeit the right to use that weapon to win an argument. If you are driving, you forfeit the right to engage in road rage and this means no gestures, waiving arms, or otherwise engaging in behavior to provoke or in response to provocation from another driver. You are carrying a firearm to defend your life and not to gain an advantage in a road rage or any other argument. The same applies to any other arguments in which you might engage. You forfeit the right to use the firearm to gain advantage in an argument. That is the privilege and responsibility in carrying a firearm.

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Welcome to the community Daniel. Your remarks are right in line with what the USCCA teaches and espouses in our training courses.

Stay safe out there.

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Reminder to all. We are not privy to the escalating conversation. We are not privy to the conversation at the vehicle. We know only what is reported. The question is how do we - would we - stay calm in tense family situations. My late father taught me the ā€œ500 year rule.ā€ Simply stated, the rule asks the question, ā€œWhat difference will this make 500 years from now?ā€ By the time I’ve answered that, the heat has passed.

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Very well said.

Hi,
From what I read about Frances and the other party in the car who shot Frances was definitely in the right to defend himself . The person who shot Frances was absolutely right to defend himself in a life or death situation good for defendant for protecting himself. I think anyone in that situation has to think very quickly and respond with a self defense situation. Good for him in protecting himself

A big AMEN on your wise reply. Calling a close relative or any leftie a pinko is not a welcoming way toward keeping the peace! Dang, can’t we all just get along! Thanks.

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Hello and welcome to all the new folk! Dive in.

Forrest Gump was right. ā€œStupid is as stupid does.ā€ Mind control and self control is more important than gun control. You don’t ā€œwinā€ when you ā€œloseā€ your temper. Family is like the song from The Gambler; ā€œYou have to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to runā€¦ā€

Remember this well: Gunpowder and alcohol don’t mix. It won’t shoot and tastes terrible.

The First Amendment gives everybody the right to be wrong.

How Important Is It?
This is a question I ask myself I find myself in any type of confrontation or dispute. That little question helps me put things into some perspective. For those of us who carry everyday and everywhere, coupled with situational awareness, perspective helps guide us in the choices and courses of action we take. Depending on the situation, and as I process my thoughts, I get quite and ask questions (humbly) to see where the other guy is ā€œatā€. At the same time I am looking for a way out of the immediate area. I may even say, ā€œI can see things are getting heated here and I need to step away to gather my thoughts.ā€
Sometimes you can not fix stupid and cool down a hot head…then you need to start thinking of you tactical options.

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