Help me understand what this has to do with the purpose of our forum.
The claim in the article is that the person who shot was defending themselves.
From the article:
“I know my husband. My husband is not like that,” she said, adding, “For them to claim self-defense, it’s sickening.”
No charges have been filed against the shooter.
I can see this being a very important what-if scenario to discuss here.
Well, different people may see different lessons here. In my opinion, “confronting” people is an issue. When tempted to, even for a righteous reason, consider not doing it.
This story is as far from black and white as it can be. Bellicose man comes to someone’s house, escalates to fistfight, attacks a minor… I can see why self-defence claim may be legit. From another perspective, a kid who is a persistent bully, a tormentor rarely comes from a good family. So the father went there to talk, and unexpectedly ran into an even bigger thug, or a whole family of thugs. They murdered him and are making it look like it was his fault. I can believe this too.
The moral is, don’t find yourself in a situation like this.
From my youth, a similar event happened in the town I live.
A dad went to confront a young man about an incident involving his daughter. The boys father answered the door. After a heated discussion, the girls dad forced the door open(and he was a very big man). The boys father shot him in the chest with a 12 gauge. It was ruled self defense.
Moral of the story: use legal means to stop stupid people.
What a sad story. Cyber bullying has been on the rise and it seems like the people doing it are just getting away with it. The victim of the shooting was unarmed. Why shoot him. As a parent I would have done the same thing to protect my daughter.
In FL, there is no legal recourse, if the messages fell short of death threats. If both teens went to same school, there may or may be a recourse due to school policies, but you can imagine consequences for the girl.
Then go to the nearest police station and perhaps get some law enforcement to accompany you, and serve as witnesses. They may refuse, or may be sympathetic and help you. Also, could arrange a meeting with the boy’s parents in the school principal’s office. Assuming, the parents can be reasoned with, and aren’t thugs who approve of their son. My point is , have some neutral witnesses to keep tempers in check.
@Alexander8 , the problem with going to the police. The police are worthless when it comes to cyberbullying. Ask the cops they’ll tell you. They really have no definitive jurisdiction over the internet. I know for a fact the most cops won’t do nothing about this nor would they accompany you. in fact they would tell you to stay away from the house.
after they tell you to stay away from the house house, if you go then here doing exactly what they told you not to do. if something were to happen,nthey could use that against you in court.
Do you all understand what the root cause of this entire situation? As in, what led to the outcome. Granted poor decisions abound. What is the root cause?
Fact check that.
Of course they cannot do anything. The only reason I suggested it, is to get witnesses and keep tempers under control. More likely than not, the cops would say they are busy with real crime, and not to bother them, but there is still chance they could have made themselves useful.
My daughter was bullied at a private school. When I discovered it I withdrew her and my son from it and made an oath never to support Catholic schools again. Hell, I reduced my giving and stopped giving to the dog iocese. I’m sure they felt it. Now I pay very close attention to her. My son almost lost his faith because he too dealt with it. My daughter peed her pants daily because of it. I complained and they did nothing. They are all on my “S” list now. I have “zERO” tolerance with bullies. But I just stay away for everybody’s sake. I would move my child and complain publicly. Sue me. You can’t get blood out of a turnip.
My dad always said champions have to be good enough to beat all the competition in spite of crooked refs…consistently. He was also a huge advocate of using deceptive tactics.
I know for a fact you can. I’ve done it for what someone said to my daughter, when she was young. He is now a certified sex offender. Just depends on jurisdiction.if it crossed a state line as it did in my case it’s not a police case it’s a federal case. Then it’s a matter of staying after keeping records and making them aware that you are going to stay after them.
This is precisely why replied. Confronting other drivers is called “road rage” for a reason.
I don’t agree. In the small town where we raised our daughter, the local police were very helpful in resolving a cyberbullying case involving our daughter as the victim. Fortunately, my daughter was otherwise well-liked and had great friends at church who were friends with other school mates (they didn’t go to the same school themselves). That also helped deliver the right message.
Well @Zavier_D and @OldGnome you were lucky to have help. Everytime I personally seen it happen and or friends have told me about, nothing was done.
Cyberbulling requires cyber solutions.
I can agree with some who haven’t found help from Police…in some areas Police just don’t know what to do.
Definitely physical confrontation is not a good move. This never stops bulling.
There was a horrific case mentioned on this forum a while ago. Neighbours bullying (not cyberbullying) a veteran with PTSD, threatening to rape his 12 year old daughter, and the judge refused a restraining order. Depends on jurisdiction, on the PD, and, sadly, on where the bully wants to stop.
Doesn’t anybody teach their kids…
Sticks and stones may break my bones
But words will never hurt me
…anymore?
Your life…your actions and choices over time…should insulate you against slander. If it doesn’t, I think that’s on me. Now if we are talking about harassment via electronic comms, that’s easy enough to remedy.