Ted Cruz and Alyssa Milano debate

What did you think?

I really wanted to see it. but you need to have an account with Facebook in order to watch it. and both of my Facebook accounts have been disabled. And I’m not able to find out why because FB doesn’t have a customer support number. And they don’t respond to feedback’s or messages sent to them. I’ve been waiting for 4 months for and answer. AND ALL I HAVE GOTTEN IS CRICKETS. So I moved to “Parler.com”. And F Facebook.

First five minutes…

MM: You’re smart enough to know what the perception of you [Cruz] is and where it comes from
Me: It comes from the left and the media lambasting him every chance they can.

MM: Being a leader is something we’re all born with
Me: Not even close…there are individuals who absolutely have no ability to lead and it’s something we’re not necessarily born with.

Ok, let me go watch the next 45min of it…

Wait what??? At 7:28 he gives her props for her role in Commando of which he’s a big fan…a movie where they run around with automatic weapons and large knives trying to kill each other!!! And she laughs and says thank you!! Oh the irony!!!

Ok now we start with the emotional pulls of the father and pictures of his dead daughter. And his claim that it’s not a Rep or Dem issue…he’s right. It’s a life and death issue and about self defense.

Oh and according to the father the AR-15 is the only weapon that could have severed her spinal cord with one shot…….uh wrong…any weapon larger than .38spcl (and maybe even those) could server a spinal cord with a single shot………

Oh surprise they all (the father and MM) have guns in their homes and so that means they’re not trying to take anyone’s guns!!! No, just not their guns……. ok enough of my commenting…Good for Senator Cruz for sitting through that, I think I would have been less polite and more direct with the father.

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Here’s the Bill (HR 8) they want Sen Cruz to support…I’m actually surprised that it has as many exceptions as it does:

SEC. 2. Purpose.

The purpose of this Act is to utilize the current background checks process in the United States to ensure individuals prohibited from gun possession are not able to obtain firearms.

SEC. 3. Firearms transfers.

Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended—

(1) by striking subsection (s);

(2) by redesignating subsection (t) as subsection (s); and

(3) by inserting after subsection (s), as redesignated, the following:

“(t) (1) (A) It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s).

“(B) Upon taking possession of a firearm under subparagraph (A), a licensee shall comply with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the inventory of the licensee to the unlicensed transferee.

“© If a transfer of a firearm described in subparagraph (A) will not be completed for any reason after a licensee takes possession of the firearm (including because the transfer of the firearm to, or receipt of the firearm by, the transferee would violate this chapter), the return of the firearm to the transferor by the licensee shall not constitute the transfer of a firearm for purposes of this chapter.

“(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—

“(A) a law enforcement agency or any law enforcement officer, armed private security professional, or member of the armed forces, to the extent the officer, professional, or member is acting within the course and scope of employment and official duties;

“(B) a transfer that is a loan or bona fide gift between spouses, between domestic partners, between parents and their children, including step-parents and their step-children, between siblings, between aunts or uncles and their nieces or nephews, or between grandparents and their grandchildren, if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law;

“© a transfer to an executor, administrator, trustee, or personal representative of an estate or a trust that occurs by operation of law upon the death of another person;

“(D) a temporary transfer that is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm, including harm to self, family, household members, or others, if the possession by the transferee lasts only as long as immediately necessary to prevent the imminent death or great bodily harm, including the harm of domestic violence, dating partner violence, sexual assault, stalking, and domestic abuse;

“(E) a transfer that is approved by the Attorney General under section 5812 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986; or

“(F) a temporary transfer if the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee will use or intends to use the firearm in a crime or is prohibited from possessing firearms under State or Federal law, and the transfer takes place and the transferee’s possession of the firearm is exclusively—

“(i) at a shooting range or in a shooting gallery or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting;

“(ii) while reasonably necessary for the purposes of hunting, trapping, or fishing, if the transferor—

“(I) has no reason to believe that the transferee intends to use the firearm in a place where it is illegal; and

“(II) has reason to believe that the transferee will comply with all licensing and permit requirements for such hunting, trapping, or fishing; or

“(iii) while in the presence of the transferor.

“(3) (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Attorney General may implement this subsection with regulations.

“(B) Regulations promulgated under this paragraph may not include any provision requiring licensees to facilitate transfers in accordance with paragraph (1).

“© Regulations promulgated under this paragraph may not include any provision requiring persons not licensed under this chapter to keep records of background checks or firearms transfers.

“(D) Regulations promulgated under this paragraph may not include any provision placing a cap on the fee licensees may charge to facilitate transfers in accordance with paragraph (1).

“(E) Regulations promulgated under this paragraph shall include, in the case of a background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system in response to a contact from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, which background check indicates that the receipt of a firearm by a person would violate subsection (g)(5), a requirement that the system notify U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“(4) It shall be unlawful for a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer possession of, or title to, a firearm to another person who is not so licensed unless the importer, manufacturer, or dealer has provided such other person with a notice of the prohibition under paragraph (1), and such other person has certified that such other person has been provided with this notice on a form prescribed by the Attorney General.”.

I am also surprised at the number and scope of the exceptions.

Funny story about Ms. Milano. When I first learned I was going to be her armed escort for the Kentucky Derby (quite) a fer years ago, I looked her up. OK, she’s an attractive lady. When I met her, along with her mother, fathe and a friend, they seemed OK but overly protective about her personal space in a venue where these folks are invited to socialize with the little people that are paying big money for tickets to the events they are attending. Protective to the point that they did not want anyone allowed to approach her table while they were seated.

She has high standards for her safety but those standards do not apply to the commoners in our country.

But I did get this nifty picture with her and with my family!

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A write up about the conversation and her current attacks on Jon Voight for voicing his political opinion. :thinking:

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Why give her the time of day

Would you not offer the overly verbal, outspoken co-worker the opportunity to go to the range with you to “learn” about firearms? She has a “UGE” following and if a reasoned response resonates with her, it may resonate with her fans which turns more and more rabid liberals to cautious questioning adults who just need to be taught.

Cheers,

Craig6

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Hey Craig6. Reasonable question. In my humble opinion conversing with a outspoken co-worker would certainly be encouraged. However, in the case of Melissa Milano and Senator Cruz, i believe the only benefit will be to MM. By sitting down with Senator Cruz, you immediately elevate MM stature to not only her loyal followers, but also with the less than engaged general public. No matter what Senator Cruz says, the militant left will contort it to make it benefit their argument, right or wrong. These are not reasonable people looking for a friendly discussion on the issues of the day, These are militant left wing activist who will say or do anything in order to get their way. Their way is nothing that I want to give a voice to.

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@ThatSoccerDude I respectfully disagree. This is the same argument the MM have been trying to use against DJT for giving Kim Jung Un face time. The MM will voice their opinion with or without our help, only when we can intercede and create a dialog does it shut them down. The rabid dogs will be what they are but that is not the majority on either side. The MM is loosing ground daily due to their always hate trump tactics. The regular USA is over it. So in a battle of ideas, I would rather Jaw, Jaw than War, War.

FWIW there is no difference between AM and a co-worker, they are both an opportunity to elevate your position.

Cheers,

Craig6

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Yea. Understand what you’re saying. I just hate elevating AM (incorrectly used MM) and others like her to the level of a Ted Cruz. I don’t think anything positive will come from it, only the bolstering of another anti-gun, leftist.

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I think there’s a silver lining here. While I don’t agree with her or a lot of what she says, she was willing to have a dialog. Did she learn anything from the dialog? I don’t know. But she at least set the example to attempt to have dialog to learn and educate. I think that’s something huge that everyone can take away from this situation.

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You’re very right. The sad thing is that she has access to good guys with guns, often at no expense to her as it was when I was on her protection detail. Wherever she wanted to go, I went.

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Agreed, the more conversations like this happen the better. Conversations has the potential of turning into moderated debates and moderated debates are an ultimate goal that should be strived for as they lay out both views with rebuttals to those views.

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