Greetings & welcome to the community, Andrew!
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Unless they have a metal detector, how would they know if it is actually concealed. Nobody knows when I have a sidearm on me, not even the wife.
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I think the worst that can happen is that they can trespass you but itâs not a criminal offense
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As do I but unless they start frisking everyone, how would they know what you have in your pockets, strapped to your leg or middle of your back?
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Depends on the state. Know your state laws.
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Thats what I was thinking. In Indiana all they can do is tell you to leave. Or it could be trespassing.
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I have to say ..in Texas I am LTC and can carry in AMC and Costco. No prohibition sign. AMC has one that doesnât allow non LTC holders (constitutional carry).
And my target doesnât have a sign so have carried there as well
If you are confronted please ask them if they have armed security to protect you.
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I made an assumption in an earlier post that was incorrect. It is a misdemeanor to ignore a no weapons sign in this State:
According to North Carolina law, a private establishment has the right to post signage prohibiting the possession of weapons or firearms on its premises.
Specifically, North Carolina General Statute § 14-415.11(c) prohibits individuals with concealed carry permits from carrying in places where there are notices.
Failure to heed such signs could result in a Class 2 misdemeanor charge.
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Thankfully here itâs just a challenge sign to make sure youâre concealing properly. The worst that can happen if youâre spotted is, they might ask you to leave and not give them your money.
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And the idiot Dems want to unmask our Ice Agents!!! Letâs not worry about these Bozos.
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I am a little late replying,Michael, but just got the notification. I agree with you and Andrew221 above and Iowaâs law differentiating between public and private property makes it clear to anyone with a brain why our law is written like it is.
It is understood we still have private property rights here, and the decision whether to allow people (customers) to carry rests with the property owner alone. That ownerâs Right to deny weapons carriers access to their property is sacrosanct. We have a choice whether to do business with that store or to take our business elsewhere. Our tolerance for that store ownerâs Right to restrict access MUST be honored because FREEDOM rests on the principle of respect for the Rights of others (âWE hold these truths to be self-evident, that All Men are created equal , that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happinessâ).
Because it is our Right to defend ourselves under the 2A (and our obligation under federal law according to Warren v District of Columbia - 444 A 2d, 1 (DC Appellate, 1981) ) does not mean our obligation to be our OWN 1st line of defense against crime supercedes HIS Right to deny me that ability on his premises; only that honoring the store ownerâs Right requires I either disarm or take my business elsewhere. Many store owners are aware of how the âbad pressâ from a shooting on their premises causes a temporary, sometimes lengthy decrease in business (one of the motivations behind their decision to ban guns, ignoring the deadly fact that such a ban can put the owner in a very dangerous position personally).
I must confess though, that since I carry my EDC concealed, my attitude is âWhat he doesnât know canât hurt either of usâ and, if discovered, I will leave when he asks me to leave - no argument!
On public property in Iowa, another, more âCommon Senseâ rule applies. Government, agency or department offices must allow the carrying of weapons by authorized persons on public property unless those locations provide a screening process for everyone and on-site security! Only then may concealed or open weapons carriers be denied access. That is our state law and it has been tested in court. Iowa has always been an âOpen Carryâ state.
Iowa also has a pre-emption statute which states that no local municipality or county may enact ordinances or other provisions that are more restrictive to the carrying of weapons than is permitted under state law.
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Good job Johnny. I like it.
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