# Shoot Or Don't Shoot - How much time to react? **URL:** \ **Category:** Self-Defense\ **Created:** [September 10, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027 "2020-09-10T12:24:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gary\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/gary_h/32/5302_2.png) [@Gary\_H](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Gary_H)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/1 "2020-09-10T12:24:52Z")
This video shows how difficult it is for a police officer to deal with an erratic suspect who reaches into a vehicle: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/f/5/f5b588bba08a4eb6979df1da42214113d163e820.jpeg "Shoot or Don't? How much time is there to react") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IoO5zdXXfA) ---
**Author:** ![Justin47](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/justin47/32/18508_2.png) [@Justin47](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Justin47)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/2 "2020-09-10T14:28:05Z")
That’s a video the world needs to see. Good video @Gary_H. Something that should be understood by all. When you put a badge on your Putting a target on your back. With all the phones with cameras around, people are just waiting for you to screw up. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/gary_h/32/5302_2.png) [@Gary\_H](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Gary_H)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/3 "2020-09-10T14:35:33Z")
I think it also highlights how much further behind the eight-ball we as civilians are. Police are much less likely to get arrested, fined, and/or loose their right to carry because they “brandished” a firearm. ---
**Author:** ![Steven147](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/steven147/32/18628_2.png) [@Steven147](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Steven147)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/4 "2020-09-10T15:56:40Z")
Great video! During a few of my criminal justice classes, the professor (retired ATF but formal presidential secret service ect) He would pull up shootings on the news and then pull up the reports… He then would make us reenact the scenario in the classroom with airsoft guns/ fake prop knives ect. It was an awesome class. We got away with this due to classes being held at the police academy building and not the main college campus. ---
**Author:** ![Cobra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/cobra/32/21082_2.png) [@Cobra](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Cobra)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/5 "2020-09-10T19:05:48Z")
> [@Justin47](#): > > That’s a video the world needs to see. Good video @Gary_H. Something that should be understood by all. When you put a badge on your Putting a target on your back. With all the phones with cameras around, people are just waiting for you to screw up. I totally agree with Justin47 ---
**Author:** ![Glock27ccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@Glock27ccw](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Glock27ccw)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/6 "2020-09-10T20:22:44Z")
It’s unfortunate that gun owners are the only ones who will bother to watch this, instead of the defund police crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Danny28](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/danny28/32/19183_2.png) [@Danny28](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Danny28)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/7 "2020-09-10T20:39:12Z")
CCWs and normal citizens cannot play by the rules you just set up. If ANY normal citizen responded the way you describe-- they’d be charged and in prison. The police play by their own set of rules. ---
**Author:** ![Scott52](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/scott52/32/160942_2.png) [@Scott52](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Scott52)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/8 "2020-09-10T21:16:56Z")
I shot him every time he shot me but unfortunately I did shoot the phone guy and died when he pulled both! ---
**Author:** ![Glock27ccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@Glock27ccw](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Glock27ccw)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/9 "2020-09-10T23:09:02Z")
Oops! Do not pass GO. Go to jail… ---
**Author:** ![Steven147](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/steven147/32/18628_2.png) [@Steven147](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Steven147)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/10 "2020-09-10T23:10:49Z")
This video is meant to show people why police react the way they do, not to tell CCWs to abide by police ROE. ---
**Author:** ![Paul008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/paul008/32/131345_2.png) [@Paul008](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Paul008)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/11 "2020-09-11T00:33:39Z")
x2 … Fully agree ---
**Author:** ![Leonard12](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leonard12/32/23143_2.png) [@Leonard12](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Leonard12)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/12 "2020-09-11T03:54:34Z")
I agree that it would be beneficial for the public to see a video such as this. The video will explain the recent police shooting of Jacob Blake. ---
**Author:** ![Martin36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Martin36](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Martin36)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/13 "2020-09-11T12:31:33Z")
Wish this could be shared on other social media platforms. Being honest, if I waited until the I could definitely say it was a gun…I got shot or at least shot at every time. Since it is a simulation none of us can say if we truly would have been shot or been able to return fire and neutralize the threat. Great awareness video. ---
**Author:** ![Michael554](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/michael554/32/17774_2.png) [@Michael554](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Michael554)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/14 "2020-09-11T14:44:27Z")
I shared it to my FB. It got a lot if good support, but also a lot of defunders playing asses. Rank and file folks got it. Still too many idiots and haters. Comments got taken down because of the rancor. Sometimes I think Social media makes things worse. TG for USCCA Community. We disagree at times but @Dawn has helped us stay supportive and guided us back to civility when we stray. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alexander8](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Alexander8)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/15 "2020-09-11T14:46:07Z")
Defund police crowd hates the police irrationally, I do not think any kind of education to trigger empathy with LE would help. ---
**Author:** ![Martin36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Martin36](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Martin36)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/16 "2020-09-11T14:55:49Z")
100% agree about being able to have different opinions on here and still remain civil. None of us know everything and the only way to true growth is through open dialogue. I will also agree that rarely happens on other social media platforms. To so many it can only be their way and if you disagree you automatically hate them. So glad I am part of USCCA. Stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![Paul008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/paul008/32/131345_2.png) [@Paul008](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Paul008)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/17 "2020-09-11T15:43:37Z")
That’s for making the effort. Opinions will never be sacred on social media. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/848f3c/32.png) [@Hunter6](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Hunter6)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/18 "2020-09-16T02:58:25Z")
Great video. Really drives the point the mindless mobs don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/gary_h/32/5302_2.png) [@Gary\_H](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Gary_H)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/19 "2020-09-16T03:03:48Z")
Thanks @Hunter6, welcome aboard, lots of great discussions here. ---
**Author:** ![Cobra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/cobra/32/21082_2.png) [@Cobra](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Cobra)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027/20 "2020-09-16T21:16:02Z")
Welcome to the community, train hard and stay safe. from Michigan 😃 [Next page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/shoot-or-dont-shoot-how-much-time-to-react/38027.md?page=2)