# Self Defense in your Car and in your Home - Small Town USA

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146>\
**Category:** Self-Defense\
**Created:** [June 4, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146 "2024-06-04T14:50:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/1 "2024-06-04T14:50:07Z")

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> **[Driver was on meth, paranoid and violent before killing Santaquin officer,...](https://www.ksl.com/article/51031998/driver-was-on-meth-paranoid-and-violent-before-killing-santaquin-officer-girlfriend-says)**
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> A woman who police say was being held against her will shortly before Sgt. Bill Hooser was hit and killed says the driver was on meth, paranoid and violent that morning.

The places this took place in a single day are far apart and rural. This guy kill Officer Hooser in northern Utah, took trucks and cars in central Utah and got caught in eastern Utah. I was raised around Vernal, it’s oil patch and ranchers. Just goes to show, not even rural areas are exempt from craziness.

Santaquin, Ut. - Pop. 16,898  
Beaver, Ut. - Pop. 3,708  
Mona, Ut. - Pop. 1,906  
Nephi, Ut. - Pop. 6,840  
Mt Pleasant, Ut. - Pop. 3,820  
Vernal, Ut. - Pop. 10.079

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**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/2 "2024-06-04T15:12:55Z")

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Something to keep in mind when people say

“I live in a safe area”

“That kind of thing doesn’t happen here”

“I don’t go to cities”

Etc

Anywhere there are animals, including two leg animals, there exists a possibility you will need to avoid danger or even actively defend yourself.

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**Author:** ![BeanCounter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/beancounter/32/173526_2.png) [@BeanCounter](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BeanCounter)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/4 "2024-06-04T16:34:02Z")

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> [@Mike164](#):
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> rural areas

Methinks drug use is more common there due to… boredom?

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**Author:** ![Robert1025](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1025/32/50363_2.png) [@Robert1025](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1025)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/5 "2024-06-04T19:30:41Z")

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My little, but growing, town of 7K+ is not exempt by any means. Although at a much lower rate, crime exists and I expect that to stay steady. I’ll never forget when I went into the Police station to get my fingerprints for my CCW. After some small talk the officer asked if I was carrying (we’re constitutional carry here) I said no, not into a police station, and he said it’s permitted and they have no issue with it. He congratulated me on going the extra step for a CCW, told me the benefits over constitutional carry, and encouraged me to always take advantage of this right. We cannot be everywhere, so in most cases it’s you that’s the first responder. I’ve taken those words to heart.

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**Author:** ![Ronald150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Ronald150](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ronald150)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/6 "2024-06-04T20:42:27Z")

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Truck driver on meth, behind the wheel of an 18 wheeler, “No Bueno”. Guessing that there are no DOT rules for independent truck drivers like random drug testing, passing a CDL Medical Exam every 2 years. No one keeps tabs on these nutjobs. With so many Semi’s on the highways and byways these days, hope they’re running legally.

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**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/7 "2024-06-04T21:28:49Z")

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> [@Ronald150](#):
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> Guessing that there are no DOT rules for independent truck drivers like random drug testing, passing a CDL Medical Exam every 2 years.

There are.

> **[Are Owner-Operators that operate commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) on the...](https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/drug-alcohol-testing/are-owner-operators-operate-commercial-motor-vehicles-cmvs-public)**
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> Guidance on applicability of the DOT drug and alcohol testing requirements to owner-operators

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**Author:** ![Peter195](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Peter195](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Peter195)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/8 "2024-06-04T22:20:20Z")

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You are totally wrong company drivers or owner operators have to comply with the same rules. Dot will check an owner operator quicker then a company driver. I have been both over the last 38 years.

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**Author:** ![Ronald150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Ronald150](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ronald150)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/9 "2024-06-04T22:46:59Z")

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Like on Mike164’s post of the truck driver on meth, there is on a rare occasion, one falls through the cracks trying to cheat the system and ending up creating an atrocity, but all and all the majority of the trucking industry, comply by law, and DOT rules and regulations enforcement in place, the trucking industry run in compliance.

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**Author:** ![Will\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/will_b/32/102791_2.png) [@Will\_B](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Will_B)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/10 "2024-06-04T23:57:15Z")

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Yeah, most stay in compliance.

There are definitely occasions where someone does something exceptionally stupid and operates under the influence.

And in those instances, it generally does not end well!

Even a minor mistake when driving a semi causes massive damage.

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/11 "2024-06-05T00:06:23Z")

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And then there’s guys like this, nothing he did was by mistake. Every step of the way he acted with drug crazes intent.

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**Author:** ![David38](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/david38/32/3234_2.png) [@David38](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/David38)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/12 "2024-06-05T02:37:40Z")

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> [@Mike164](#):
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> not even rural areas are exempt from craziness.

Nowhere is _exempt_ from craziness.

There is a three point tool I use to evaluate of any particular place regarding bad things happening::

1. Possible? (The answer is “always”.)
2. Probable? ( A measurable number of bad things happening in a specific area?)
3. Likely? ( Bad things happening on a regular basis?)

There are more criteria considered before coming to a final decision, but these are always the first three.

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**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/13 "2024-06-05T02:42:10Z")

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> [@BeanCounter](#):
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> Methinks drug use is more common there due to… boredom?

If by Drug you mean Gun, then yes 😀

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**Author:** ![deranged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deranged](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/deranged)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/self-defense-in-your-car-and-in-your-home-small-town-usa/104146/14 "2024-06-05T03:35:21Z")

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Car and home there is almost always a firearm within arms reach. If not in the car, within 3 steps reach maximum. Not paranoid, prepared. Crazy can be within seconds.
