SCOTUS Decision: NYS Rifle & Pistol Association V. Bruen

People with a wide read of the second amendment are just never happy,

This is a huge win for that POV,

“to justify [a] regulation, the government may not simply posit that the regulation promotes an important interest. Rather, the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.”"

So current regulations based on an “important interest” (red flag laws, assault weapon bans, limits on rounds) are all untenable now. The test is now historical.

“There’s no history of taking away guns from people in crisis as red flags do. Bans on high capacity magazines and assault weapons are also likely to be struck down, and then there’s California’s 10-day waiting period. There’s no history of that. The court says only those regulations consistent with historical regulations are permissible. California has innovative laws that restrict guns in ways that are not historically common.” - UCLA law professor Adam Winkler

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The Uniparty is made of strong, forceful, purposeful D side, and weak and unprincipled R side. Prove me wrong :frowning:

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November we start marching!

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Sorry, had to.

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Yes :heart:

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I was watching this one too.

In case you hadn’t heard about it; I believe the story behind it was, that in NY, there was an official proposal asking that even law abiding good citizens have to demonstrate “need” before they are legally allowed to CCW a firearm outside the home. To me, that is way over the top too extreme.

I was concerned of the precedent it could send; And mind you, I am for some firearm laws, but not this one. Just this week, I heard of a series of armed robbers mugging people, but the armed robbers not assaulting in pairs, but in a group of 3-4, all armed, in broad daylight, well before 8:00PM. The location was all too close for me.

Been traveling within the U.S. this year, thus I appreciate this post, helping keep us abreast. Though I’d feel a lot better if all nine Justices agreed in our favor, I’m relieved the count was six (SCOTUS = Supreme Court Of The United States).

Stay strong.

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Neal Katyal, who describes himself as a “Supreme Court lawyer,” …

I disagree with his logic. “Bear Arms” is written in the Constitution.

Lefty’s somehow think abortion is there!

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Haven’t watched the video, however it may not be unreasonable to think that this may have a bearing on the decision to have an abortion. Perhaps that is the delay? I’d rather think that it is, since otherwise it has the appearance of trying to manipulate the November elections…

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Justice Kavanaugh wrote on the training portion … quoted.
Likewise, the 6 States including New York potentially affected by today’s
decision may continue to require licenses for carrying handguns for self-defense so long as those States employ objective licensing requirements like those used by the 43 shallissue States.
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So what are all of the most restrictive requirements in all of the 43 shall issue states? The may issue states will likely try to mix and match these requirements to make the most restrictive system possible.

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As it is in Illinois where MacDonald forced the legislature to become a “shall issue” state.

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Agreed, and our God given right to defense oneself does not necessarily require a gun, any weapon will do, even a fist. The 2A affirms our God Given right.

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Nope. Should be on the least restrictive means available. Thats the law.

Arbitrary and Capricious means doing something according to one?s will or caprice and therefore conveying a notion of a tendency to abuse the possession of power.

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Yes, Let’s see how fast these states implement the new law.

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1 year + wait times to be granted the permission of a permit.

Hundreds of dollars for a permit.

Required training that takes literal days to attend, costs money and time off work and childcare time.

Come to mind.

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What should happen and what will happen are seldom the same. Sounds like this ruling still leaves plenty of room for restrictions that will likely need to be challenged for years to come.

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We’ve had almost 90 years of additional restrictions (1934 NFA). It will take time to regain our rights. Every step forward is a good step. We have almost half the nation with “Constitutional Carry”. I have faith that it will be achieved. We have more people owning firearms than ever before. The Left will be forced to bend as their special interest groups learn how offensive these “gun control” laws actually are. It is sick that these politicians still espouse Jim Crow era ideology. They have not learned, as their supporters are drugged to sleep with government handouts and fear politics.

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I am a former resident of NY. In a way, I am very happy with the ruling. However, I will wait to celebrate. How long will it take to put in a new system? What training requirements will be required? Bureaucracy has its own inertia. They may have been forced to issue for self defense now, but can take a long time to find/set draconian requirements.

I want to talk to my father about how difficult, and how long it took him to get his NY permit. He was a business owner.

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It was a fairly significant ruling. Some of the high points are that it affirmed law abiding citizen’s right to bear arms outside the home. It struck down NY’s restrictive requirement to have a special need to receive a carry license, and perhaps most significantly it rejected the two tier method that many Appeals Courts have used to uphold restrictive gun laws.

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