That makes me curious to know how many folks have required a mag reload under a self defense situation. Makes me wonder how the “self defense” defense would hold up in court. Makes me wonder if these people who have required a mag reload in a self defense situation have sufficiently trained. Things that make you go hmmm.
I’ll have to look up one of those police encounters where the deceased suspect was shot 47 times.
I read somewhere that is a feature of the design.
Ever heard of “tap, rack, bang” for an immediate action drill?
That is the question you never get answer for.
People are using statistics to train for self defense. That is not me.
If statistically self defense occurs with distance 3 - 5 yards, it doesn’t mean I don’t practice self defense scenarios with distances more than 10 yards.
The same is with ammo and reloads. Statistics say 3 bullets. OK. But what happens if i need 8 or 11 or 16 to defend myself? What is my main magazine fails? I don’t want to be another number in FBI statistics listed as a victim.
Perhaps nobody needs reloads for self defense… but what if in 1 case in a million somebody does need it and has no idea what to do?
I do always train for every possible situation. I want myself and my friends, students to be prepared for each option, to have at least two options to act and be safe.
Does “tap, rack, bang” fixes bad magazine or top it off if more ammo needed?
Better to clean handgun with CLP mixed with sand and shoot 1 mag. It gives the same idea.
I can bet on it - Glock will still shoot.
No, but it would fix a full good magazine partially dropped down after the magazine release was accidentally pressed. That’s why I called it a feature not a flaw.
What seems more likely to occur during a self defense situation?
Human error pressing the magazine release?
Using all the ammunition in your mag and needing an additional magazine? Or the quality magazine and ammunition you tested in it suddenly breaking at the worst possible time?
I don’t calculate what seems more likely to occur during a self defense situation.
I’m always trying to keep in mind all the possibilities.
If I’m missing mag release in my handgun, I’m not using it.
If my shooting performance is bad with the handgun, I’m not using it.
If my handgun malfunction three times with the same part… I’m not using it.
Human error can be fixed or corrected, but I always check why this error occurs.
I do not calculate. I need the best tool, best performance and zero* malfunction.
.* [ American zero - meaning 0% - 5% is still zero]
Are you still with us @Kathy25
Don’t we all?
Fortunately we are free to make our own decisions and decide what the best tool as an individual we want to use.
Tap rack bang was believed beneficial enough to teach thousands of people during training so there has to be some perceived benefit to the drill.
After 24 hr, @Kathy25 decided to drop all the books and focus on this thread only.
or maybe not… maybe she closed this Forum and went to local library?
Agreed @Barry54 , agreed with every word.
But we were discussing need for practicing reloads. And this is needed as much as practicing “tap-rack”, despite of the fact we statistically don’t need both.
I apologize then. I did not read thoroughly and just focused on the magazine not dropping freely portion of your post.
Since this thread was created by someone new to Firearm ownership and owns two Glock firearms, I wanted to point out that some people perceive that as a feature not a flaw.
All good, that’s the purpose of this Forum - discussion.
There are a lot of handguns with not freely dropping magazines. There are a lot of handguns with hardly dropping magazines. People need to remember about it, test the tools and know how to deal with it.
I’m glad you mentioned “tap-rack”, I’m sure @Kathy25 appreciates this info to be here as well.
@Kathy25 >> Hi Kathy ; did we forget about eyes and ears❓
And away we go….
You have to forgive @Jerzy? He doesn’t feel the Glock love. If you asked 50 random posters here you would probably get 20 different answers.
Welcome to the USCCA Family .
Never had a problem ejecting a mag from a Glock… I guess I know how to do it properly…
Yes, please forgive @Jerzy .
This is a typical example of “unrequited love”.
Welcome to the community.
Get good local training and practice on your own.
As much as I like to support my local ranges, I prefer to have ammo delivered to the house. Find a good dependable supplier. Probably half the cost of buying ammo at the range, so you can shoot more.
Currently I prefer NORMA. I’m sure you’ll get other recommendations.
Enjoy. And be safe.