Actually the universe is perfect or we would not be here. Do you really think if the earth was randomly flying around the sun with a radically varying orbit allowing it to come in contact with other planets or the moon / sun we would be here ? Secondly these are professional shooters. If anyone should know the dangers of firearms it would be them. I have heard it mentioned a hundred times on here by pro gun individuals saying guns do not shoot people, people shoot people. And, guns do not suddenly discharge on their own therefore they are safe. That leads me to believe that there are no âaccidentsâ with guns by those trained to use them. I would hope that people entering competition would have a very strong knowledge of how guns operate and how to safely handel one. If firearms are so dangerous that even professionals have accidents then why are they sold to individuals without training on how to use them. And, can we just expect even a seasoned professional will have an âaccidentâ from time to time ? Just trying to get the facts straight. Seems to me we have an awful lot of irresponsible gun owners given the number of shooting we have had.. So how do we prevent shooting if even professional end up having accidents. How do we keep them out if the hands of gang member and children if people are not being responsible?
This is how we look to those that would take your gunsâŚ
Itâs a good thing there are never any vehicle accidents, otherwise weâd all be forced to walk.
Could you imagine the outrage if any of the most talented, well-trained drivers, Formula One for example, were to get in an accident?
I wonder if anyone has ever hurt themselves or someone else with a pair of scissors. Might have to look into that, perhaps another confiscation campaign is warranted.
As my dad always said, there are no accidents. I shot competition for years and discovered during thousands of practice draws, etc. that anything the gun did was totally in my control. Human error is not an accident, itâs an error caused by doing something you know is questionable and proceeding anyway. You mentioned cars above. This applies to any and everything. Experience reduces error. Reminds me of the leaf filter commercials. Itâs true as heck that not knowing or using the wrong ladder can have consequences. My neighbor broke his neck and died from a fall from a ladder. Was the ladder at fault? Nope, exceeding it limitation wasâŚ.human error. Professional does not imply perfection. I think Dirty Harry said it best when he said âa manâs got to know his limitations.â Watch NASCAR and next time they mix it up on the track ask yourself, accident or human error on the part of a âprofessionalâ driver. The title professional does not make you perfect. However, if you look at this story, ask yourself, based on the thousands of competitors shooting each year, is not shooting the safest sport on the planet?
Since this article was a little Vague in details we cannot presume to know what actually happened. You need DETAILS to identify a problem in order to fix it. I wish to say just because somebody created an Event, has an Organization that holds Competitions, or even decides to invite the public to view itâSH!T HAPPENS!
Race Cars fly off the tracks, Gymnasts break their necks, Tight rope walkers go splat, and occasionally Gun folkâs make mistakes. I can attest without a doubt that Iâve seen some folkâs (who claim to be Professionals/Experts do REALLY stupid sh!tâI believe one of the USCCAâs Experts is a Prime example, he rates right up there with Senator Small Balls in Gun safety.
So I need a little more clarity on just what happened @ this âCompetitionâ before I can give an honest opinion. Just like the âShot in a Tree Standâ recently⌠kinda Vague once again.
âA Mans got to know his limitationsââindeed!
I was pointing more to the way the numbskull seized the moment to turn it into an anti gun article. But Yes, You are correct, stuff happens, how does the saying go? âIf it Can Happen it Will HappenâŚâ or something like that?
I KNEW your Intention for posting this and I concur with your meaning.
Anti-Gunners have all the subtly of a Fart in a Hurricane.
The fact that he canât give a cohesive story proves heâs a terrible writer
and he has other intentions rather than just reporting this story.
That wasnât lost on me.
Mike? Are you referring to old Murph? Murphyâs Law: Everything that can go wrong will .?
WHAT? or possiblyâŚ
âItâs supposed to be, âIf it can happen, it will,ââ a former Edwards engineer told Spark. âNot âWhatever can go wrong, will go wrong.ââ In a radio interview in the early 1980s, Murphy insisted he had in fact meant it in the former, more motivating sense.
They give this picture as an exampleâdoesnât bode well for da Camera guy! BOOM!
I do remember reading on here (quite some time ago) a statement to the effect that âthere are no âaccidental discharges"â, only negligent discharges.â I agree up to a point.
Letâs consider the terms:
accident /Äkâ˛sÄ-dÉnt, -dÄntâł/
noun
An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm.
An unforeseen event that is not the result of intention or has no apparent cause.
The use of the word âaccidentâ implies an event which is unforeseeable, unanticipated, and possibly unavoidable. While newbies may be allowed a bit of slack under tightly controlled conditions, that slack is (or should be) a very short leash, particularly after progressing to live ammo exercises. A person who self-identifies or is otherwise recognized as a âprofessionalâ âor even a high level amateur considered competent to participate in a contestâ should have sufficient experience to anticipate the possible âaccidentsâ which may happen with their firearm. Barring a mechanical malfunction or ammo failure involving guns and loads previously known to be reliable, the remaining possibilities for âaccidentsâ can be foreseen as having some chance of occurring. Not having much more specific information about this particular event itâs impossible to say what really went wrong.
This is one of the reasons I try to go to the range when nobody else is on the line; very few others at any rate.
The difference between accidental and negligent discharge differ by who is at fault.
Accidental discharge - each time the firearm discharges without userâs interaction. Mostly itâs caused by malfunctioning firearm
Negligent discharge - each time the firearm unintentionally discharges by userâs interaction
Hurricane Event organizers described it as an âaccidental dischargeâ⌠perhaps they knew the difference, but negligence would look bad in the media.
One additional note. Next time there is an aircraft, train or whatever âaccidentâ pay close attention to the NTSB. Have you ever seen them close an investigation with âjust an accident.â No, they investigate until they place blame on someone or something. If itâs pilot error, they will find out, and place blame. If itâs mechanical, they will find out what and who made the faulty part and place blame. I
Accident gives readers something to fear. Negligent just points at an (even if temporary) idiot. NOT that Iâm saying he was an idiot (letâs open that can of worms)âŚ. The brain is a muscle too; they donât ALWAYS work at optimum capability.
or possiblyâŚ
