Police checking gun cabinets are important

I don’t mind. I appreciate hearing other points of view.

As do I. I just often wonder why they chose This forum out of all others firearms related.

His writing style, word usage, and spelling appear American, not English.

@Harvey @Dave17 … just an impression given his many mentions of UK.

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Aside from all the other points, here in the U.S. the 4th Amendment would make this proposal problematic at best.

If someone wants to invite the police into their home for a “safety inspection” I suppose that is on them, but I don’t see it passing Constitutional muster as a law.

The other piece of this is the cost/resource allocation. While the police are inspecting safes/homes, they are not patrolling the streets and responding to 911 calls. Are we going to double/triple the size of our police forces to do this? Who is paying for all of that?

Also, what is the ROI from all of this? Gun accidents in the home are at all time lows despite the huge increase in gun ownership. Yes there are accidents, but are there really enough to justify mandating in home inspections?

Finally, the whole argument against gun registration is that once the Gov’t has records they cannot be trusted to act in good faith (e.g. New Orleans during Katrina). How would this not end up just being one big registration list to be used for nefarious purposes by some later administration at some later date? The risk there is just way too high.

Sorry @Stephen116 this is a bad idea all the way around. But I appreciate your perspective.

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Your post reminds me of teh videos I’ve seen. The leave firearms in a room adn let kids wander around. Kids are curious adn play wiht them. I’ve never seen the difference to leacing other things in teh room. Knives. Legos. Pepper Spray. I think the real message is that kids are curious and firearms should not be available to them, but we only ever hear about one item…

In addition to my earlier point, I would also argue that the primary reason that other countries have less accidental gun deaths is because most people there are not allowed to own guns let alone use them for self defense. I doubt it has much or even anything to do with safety checks.

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If, an unsecured gun falls into the wrong hands aka, a child, and they get hurt, the parents are already in trouble. Having police come and Violate the 4Th amendment won’t fix people stupidity. Vehicles are safety inspected in some places, and we still have car accidents.
The germans used to tell the Jews “it was for your own safety” as they put them in cattle cars. And we know how that ended.

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That seems like a useful service to me, especially for all the new gun owners over the past year. I’m not sure the police would be the first people I’d invite in to do the inspection. Remember that once the police are in your house, anything they see is fair game.

Government inspections like that are hit and miss. If the fire department does an inspection, they might help me improve my location, but they could also hit me with fines or expensive new requirements. OSHA won’t give me an optional audit for my own benefit; if I ask them to visit then I’m going to get a full inspection and they’ll always find something wrong. And don’t bother asking the IRS for tax advice.

No, I think if I wanted a firearms safety inspection, I’d get it from a private source.

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From studies of which I am aware, not some news show trying to instill fear of firearms to promote an agenda, children that learned about firearm safety do not touch firearms when left alone. That goes right along with my personal experience and that of my friends. Many of us were raised around firearms, and many, such as myself, had ready access to them. We did not play with them when our parents were not around. My daughter learned firearm safety early as I did. We had no reason to play with them, not only did we know how they worked, we used them. They were not curiosities, they were tools.

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It’s a practical matter as well. I figure that a bad guy could kick my back door (maybe?) and be in my bedroom in 20 to 30 seconds. My door alarm and dogs will give me 15 seconds or so of early warning.

This should give me just barely enough time to grab my pistol on top of my nightstand and get ready to engage. Even with my pistol a foot away, I am only going to have a few seconds at best.

If you have your defense weapons locked up in your police inspected safe, and if the bad guys cone for you, you are done for.

Why even bother having a firearm at all if you can’t get to them in time to defend yourself and your family. You know, the family that is counting on you to protect them.

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I’m really at a loss for words on this one. If the OP truly believes what he wrote throughout this thread then…Bless his heart. Having lived in other countries, I can appreciate a different way of life or point of view from being raised a certain way, in a certain environment, with certain beliefs that are not like what we are blessed with to have here.

I, on the other hand, would probably handle the police coming to my door wanting to violate all kinds of my Constitutional Rights something like this:
Me (hearing knock, knock, knock): Hello. Who is it?
Police: It’s the police.
Me (opening door): Yes, sir. How can I help you?
Police: We’re here to check you gun cabinets, guns, etc.
Me: Yes, sir. May I see your warrant, please?
Police: We don’t have a warrant.
Me: Oh, I see…then come back when you have one but in the meantime… :fu:t2:

I guess I’m just funny that way about my RIGHTS !

By-the-by, I fully support the police and they are welcome in my home anytime for a safe-haven, to re-load/re-up, get something to eat if they’re hungry, have a cold glass of sweet tea if they’re hot, or a hot cup of coffee if they’re cold. However, they will be in my home as my guest and not my inquisitor. I will not infringe on their rights and, by the same token, they shall not infringe on mine. The Bill of Rights is a wonderful thing.

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That’s an interesting comment.

If one let’s the police in for something else (water, sandwich, chit chat) can they extend that to look around without permission?

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Because you all are AWESOME!! :wink:

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Count on it!
Why would you invite strangers whose intentions are totally unknown to you inside your home? How many crooks hid behind badges that looked somewhat like police, and said they were the police, before robbing the house or worse.

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Uhh… NO SIR

:loudspeaker: I’LL PASS… I DECLINE… I DO NOT CONSENT

This is a slippery slope. I don’t trust the Police or any agents of the government. :100:

What does this prove or change? So what… You can pass a once-every-5-years inspection? Who’s to say you are compliant for the rest of the time?

:v:t5:

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That’s the rub, they will assume we are not, and use that to further erode our rights, just as they do now. You forget that as firearm owners we are part of the problem of “gun” violence? We are also the easiest targets (no pun intended) in their drive for “gun control”, just like with the Sudafed limitation imposed to prevent illegal manufacture of “meth”. How has that worked?

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Agreed.

Because admitting to oneself that the Police don’t have to protect you & your family is actually empowering…

Because self-reliance is BAD

:v:t5:

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You are absolutely commutable if you believe this is a good idea. There are so many other causes of death. Do you want to require police to inspect you vehicles for signs of illegal substances too. Do you want police/CPS to investigate all homes for safety compliance and legal treatment of children. What about checking our groceries to comply with healthy eating. “We see you’ve gained 5 pounds since your last healthcare visit. We”re here to help.” :rofl: They’ll put you in a re-education camp to help you think straight again. Your idea is quite foolish and dangerous.

You are not thinking this through to it’s bitter end of human suppression. Throw our rights out the window.

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