Perfect new - no mods required

Which handguns come out of the box perfect for self defense and do not need modifications?

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All of them! Modifications are a personal choice. There is not a single firearm I have ever owned that I would not have been comfortable carrying right out of the box, Glock, Colt, Sig, S&W, Remington, Bushmaster, Mossberg, Keltec. I made modifications because I believed the modifications made them better for me, my anticipated use and my lifestyle.


@MikeBKY is right… but… just playing this game… there has been the only one I’ve got in my hands that is perfect out of the box: Walther PPQ M1.
All others, even great… they always needed something… polishing or replacing single piece…

I am totally with MikeBKY. A gun manufacturer spends a ton of time on testing the product exactly as configured. You add or change something, and it may not be an improvement necessarily.


I am very pleased with my Sig P365. Hundreds of rounds fired with no issues. Accurate for what it is. It needs nothing that I can think of.

I did put a Houge grip sleeve on it, but it did not need it. It is my primary EDC and I trust it very much.


I was impressed with my Bride’s Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm.

I bought the M&P 9 2.0 Compact because hers was so solid. :slight_smile:


Don’t know why anyone would buy a new firearm that needed ( want I get ) to be changed. There normally was more than enough to choose from. Still enough good ones to go around

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IMHO Perfect out of the box, HK VP9/VP9SK :+1:


Nice looking gun. You raised my interest. $650 to $850. Must be a good gun. I’ll check out reviews later when I’ve got more time.

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Completely ambidextrous, 3 different palm swells, 3 different back straps. 10, 13, and 15 round magazines. The only thing to get used to is the magazine release that is incorporated into the trigger guard.

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Every one. I would argue if a gun requires modifications before it is ready for self-defense, it’s not the gun for you.


The only 2 pistols I found straight out of the box were the G21 Gen 3 and Walther PPQ .45. Just a bit too big for me to EDC

My best choice out of the box, ready to go is a CZ 75 Omega.


I echo the same as @Virgil_H. My G43X was 99% perfect out of the box. I too added a Hogue grip.


They are a very good, cheap but nice upgrade. Agreed good sir.

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I agree here!

Glocks are perfect except you’ll want to change the plastic sights.

M&P 2.0s are cheaper and come with metal sights. M&Ps 2.0 (the 2.0 makes a big difference) are ready to rock and roll out of the box.

Sig P365s come ready to go from what I’ve seen and they have real nice sights.

Hellcats the same.

Heck, you can pull a Taurus out and not upgrade anything though.

I am extremely impartial to M&P. Here is why

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Same reason I like caniks. Checked for 60 thousand rounds, still shoots tight groups & match grade barrels.perfect triggers. & yes i also like s&w a lot


Thanks for sharing that video. :slight_smile:

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Absolutely. As the saying goes . . . “It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”

I have owned and carried everything from Kimber 1911’s to Glocks to Taurus to Hi-Points and every one of them have served me well. I did 2 1/2 years in Iraq as a private security contractor, and you used whatever the contract owner issued you and did well with it. Modifications like a better trigger or sights are really only significant on the range or in articles. Tens of thousands of people have gone to war and fought for their lives with whatever was issued to them because they learned to make it work. All private citizens can do the same with practice and training.

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