NFA and Self Defense

Reading the new issue, particularly Patrick Sweeney’s article “The Rural AR-15” where he twice mentions potential legal complications of NFA firearms/accessories in self-defense situations. However, he offers no further explanations or context. Can anyone elaborate?

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Welcome o the community. I can only tell you what it means to me. At one time there was an unclear distinction between a SBR and a pistol. Many people couldn’t make the distinction between the two. Any questions feel free to ask.

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Lawyers love to try and use anything they can to make a self defense case look like premeditated murder.

If an armed thug breaks into your home and you put 2 rounds of 12ga into them, they’ll say your choice to use a shotgun was a disparage of force and was unjustified. Let alone a second shot!

Now let’s introduce an NFA item? These items are regulated even more than a standard firearm,….

So why did you use your suppressed .45?

(Lawyer) Obviously you were intentionally stalking the person who broke into your home, trying to kill them before they even knew you were there!

(Lawyer) You used a SBR? Those are weapons of war! You must be bloodthirsty to use that, and bloodthirsty is not self defense!

Obviously, any sane defender knows a suppressor is to protect the hearing of the person shooting.

And an SBR is just more convenient than a full length carbine in close quarters….

But lawyers are gonna lawyer.

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Thank you! And to @Robert1246 for the welcome. I’m not good at keeping up socially in forums, but I love the information I get from them! :slightly_smiling_face:
I do “understand” the difference between SBR and pistol, at least insofar as the ATF/NFA are concerned. @Will_B that is a very rational, understandable explanation and I appreciate it. I just wasn’t sure if there was something built into the framework of the laws themselves, or solely because of the perception surrounding the NFA. Appreciate the input!

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I should have specified an AR Pistol. Hindsight is 20/20
With a pistol brace, the more I think about it.

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I understood what you meant, and I could have been more clear myself in my response :slightly_smiling_face:
I am interested in (legally) building an SBR sometime in the near future. After kit building my AR I’m kind of bit by the “I just want to build more” bug. Tinkering is fun lol

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Good luck with it. G-d bless.

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There is zero chance that an asshole investigator and prosecutor will attempt to make hay out of ANY firearm or accessory you brought to the fight. If I pop a BG in my house with a 1873 Peacemaker they will paint me as a bloodthirsty Doc Holiday wannabe.

My philosophy is use the absolute best tools you have to survive and them have the USCCA insurance to pay for the ABSOLUTE BEST Criminal Defense attorney money can buy so he can chew on the public school DA and spit him out before he ever gets the stupid idea to get you in a courtroom.

They will only prosecute the cases they think they can win. Most of them know which lawyers they can NOT win against and that’s the guy I’ll have next to me.

BTW two of my handy HD tools are a 4.5” 9mm AR pistol with a brace and a 7.5” AR SBR.

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@Michael2097 Welcome to the community!

I was warned when I bought my suppressor not to use it in a defense situation because they will paint you as being a hitman. That’s dumb as crap anyways I’m going to buckshot a bad guy at the house,or I’ll 10mm him on the street.

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So what you are trying to say is you don’t think murderers should have a choice in what type of tool we use to stop them. I say that sounds reasonable.

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How stupid is this going to sound? He stealthily crept up on the intruder and shot him with a silenced assault weapon,he never had a chance or heard it coming …well duh. A criminal has a snowballs chance in hell surviving a break in at my house to start with. I’ve got multiple ways to fix an intruder.

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Makes my want to watch Home Alone again.

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THERE IT IS! Stay alive to fight it out in the Courts. Whatever works. Somebody will always
Monday morning Quarterback your being ALIVE! How dare you! (Especially when they have an Anti-Gun Bias–or are up for re-Election).

WELCOME to the fold Michael, Good first post!
You are right where you’re suppose to be.
WWG1WGA
NCSWIC

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The Home Alone that would be made at my home would have some interesting results for the intruders. The old lady, stepson and I have taken the guerilla marksmanship, fighting from vehicles, defensive rifle 1 and 2 and small unit team training from MALC. I am on track for us to do structure clearing in the near future. We train for all hell to break loose.

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Trever, You sound like a Fun Family Bruh.
(I mean that)
We practice same same in our house.
Mostly I am the Main Defender and may Sis has my six.
In the old days when I had my tail covered I could then focus on max damage
on what was in front of me. We had a dinner party last night and our guests
got ‘wide eyed’ on our Inner Defenses, while subtle definitely not ‘the Norm’
(I would imagine :rofl:)
They should have guessed this once they crossed da Drawbridge over the Moat! :joy:

Bad time had for the BG’s if uninvited, I’d have to make ‘Dinner Reservations’
(a John Wick reference)

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I’ve posted this before, so once again…

EVERYTHING you need to know about Home Defense, and BTW a very savvy way of looking at all SD too, from the mouth of John “Shrek” McPhee former Delta Team guy.

Watch the whole video, flag/save it and then watch it three more times when you have time. Write down every word he says! Everything you need to know and absolute ZERO BS…

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So to summarize, the priorities for a successful self defense are:

1- WIN the fight through any legal means.
2- Have a great attorney in your pocket.

The rest will sort itself out.

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