Derrell1, I’m getting the vibe that you’re a Libertarian. IS that true? IF so, FYI, Libertarian is NO MORE than a theory, It has NEVER been put into practice, so it has ZERO hours of experience. I can tell you that it would implode in upon itself with GREATER weight than socialism.
YES, you gambled on NOT overgeneralizing and lost.
The TRUTH is, if we look even briefly at our American history, we will see quite a few interesting things.
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW AS A SIMPLE MATTER OF NATURAL HUMAN EVOLUTION.
FYI, even before we became a Nation, there was turmoil and contention. YOU make it sound like ALL of "We the People " have been on the same page all this time and the EXACT OPPOSITE is TRUE. Religious groups came to avoid persecution,; Companies and business groups came to explore the resources and make money; Land speculators came for the same reason; Regular folks came out of desperation, because staying where they were was sure death; Gamblers, shysters, and criminals came for their opportunities as well. IN FACT, GA. was a Penal colony , for the Colonies. AT the time of the Constitution, there were no less than 6 political parties, ALL wanting something different, for the Country and there has been contention ever since, so NO , we are NOT a society in total agreement, in just about anything,and we never have been. AND I TOTALLY disagree that socialism or Constitutional Republicanism ( you saying that leads me to believe that you may be Libertarian, like that will EVER be viable idea- PFFT!) led us to the COLD WAR. .THAT is false! It was the the REALITY that Russia and China wants ( yes , still today) to expand Communism world wide and THAT is exactly opposite of American values. If you remember, in 1964, Russia was in Cuba. 90 miles off our coast, with missiles. THAT’S A REAL THREAT, NOT AN IDEOLOGY. The OTHER reality is the UN, THAT HAS GOTTEN US INTO BAD THINGS that WE HAD NO BUSINESS GETTING INTO MORE THAN AID, WAS KOREA AND VIET Nam , WHERE COMMUNIST CHINA WAS TRYING TO FORCEFULLY EXPAND COMMUNISM. Again, REALITY, NOT ideology. I was there and I am convinced that Socialists infiltrated colleges across the Country and incited protests and riots against Viet Nam, etc. AT 13, (1972) I read Karl Marx’s Manifesto ( SUN TZU, know thy enemy) and he said that they will win by infiltrating us and bring us down from within and THAT has been happening in my lifetime! Right now, Socialists are in Congress. Who would have EVER thunk it? MY grand parents would NEVER imagined such a thing, so in TWO generations, we have Socialists in US Congress. THAT is REAL, NOT Ideology. BTW Constitutional Democratic-Republicanism is the BEST thing that has happened to Humanity, in it’s ENTIRE history! YOU would do well to study history more. I’ve spent my life doing that.
BTW, back in the day , ALL the things on the Libertarian platform were in place, RIGHT HERE IN THE USA, but the attitude was different: IF it wasn’t illegal (and even if it was), it was OK to do: ALL drugs were not illegal, Prostitution was not illegal(, govt was minimal (as folks expanded out West), the borders were wide open, everyone pretty much depended upon themselves for security and safety. MANY PERISHED, so naturally people began to band together for safety and security.Wagon Trains and small towns sprang up. That was better. However, along with virtue, vices came along as well, especially in the mining towns. The vices brought down more than one town and group of people. AS most folks know the first gun ban laws ( in a mostly lawless environment) came about out West, with Wyatt Earp and the “Cowboys”. “NO guns in the city Limits” was the law. PERIOD. ZERO tolerance. BUT, the MAIN point is, LAWS came about as a RESULT OF THE THOSE THINGS BEING WIDELY AVAILABLE AND NOT ILLEGAL. DRUGS ALMOST WIPED OUT AMERICAN SOCIETY. JUDGES, AND DOCTORS AND COPS AND TEACHERS WERE HOOKED BADLY ON DRUGS. OD were rampant. It was a pandemic!The infant mortality rate was through the roof and multitudes of babies were born addicted to drugs. Finally “We the People” ( mostly women and church groups) said enough is enough and they made drugs illegal. THAT is why it is SO hard to get ANY recreational drug to be legal, to this day!. Suffice it to say, there’s a reason for everything we do now a days: Seat belt laws, cross walk laws, ETC. Most all laws come from people doing stupid things and dying.
The REALITY is, ONLY a small group of People want the govt to take care of them ( but that number has been growing to almost half. IN FACT, When Liberals win the Pendulum swings that way and then THAT leads to the pendulum to swing back the OTHER way). I CALL THAT BALANCE. YOU AMY CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE, I DON’T CARE, cause IMO, you are out of touch with reality or at least GREATLY misinformed out of ignorance of history. AT least, I’d like to think that, I’d HATE to think that you are aware of our history and simply are hell bent in bringing us down, too.
“Hence, I agree with you, that to refer to the 2A while addressing them speaks past their belief or avenue toward safety. “You care more about protecting your gun than you do about our safety!””
Well that’s just TOTALLY ridiculous! Anyone who says that is completely stupid! Think about it, how can we think MORE about our guns than safety, if the GUN is FOR our safety? The TRUTH is, we thught about safety FIRST: and then we thought, OK, the Police takes minutes , when seconds count, AND they testified to Congress that it is NOT their responsibility to "Protect and serve " anymore. Their job is to investigate crimes and apprehend criminals, so that’s no good, Then, water balloons won’t work, sling shots wont stop a hardened felon; Then we thought about pitch forks and Viking swords ( MY ancestors) but that is SO “yesteryear”. NOPE, guns seem to fit the bill nicely. Especially semi-auto pistols and AR, with lights and optics and High capacity mags ands 100 round drums and Semi -auto SG, and high capacity mags and many, many bullets. BUT first and foremost, it’s been about SAFETY, for sure… IN the state of Florida , where I was born and raised and NOW live, We have the right to defend our Castle and ourselves , ANYwhere we normally go, as if at home. We have the right to use lethal force against ANY forceable felony and run right through riots, as if through tall grass. BTW, we’ve been able to shoot looters on sight, during a hurricane and state of emergency, for decades now… We have ZERO tolerance for criminals and socialists/communists inciters of riots and mayhem, like BLM and antifa, et al…WE ARE NOT SEATTLE AND WE ARE NOT PORTLAND NOR ATLANTA NOR CHICAGO NOR MINNEAPOLIS NOR ANYWHERE ELSE WHERE THOSE PUNKS CAN SET UP SHOP AND BURN BUILDINGS AND RAPE AND KILL AND THE LOCAL GOVT TELLS THE COPS TO “:STAND DOWN”. NOT IN FLORIDA!!!
Lastly, I don’t NEED to read about the 2A,. I know EXACTLY hwy it’s written the way it is and what it means. FYI, the SHAY REBELLION is why it’s written like it is. Under the Articles of Confederation, the Central govt and the state of Mass were helpless to deal with the rebellion. They neither had the power to raise a militia to deal with the rebellion. Shay and his small army were able to ride around the state and take over court houses and return the land back to the vets. They wee on their way to Springfield to the Federal Armory to take it over, when a rich businessman in Boston raised a militia with his own money and they went and stopped them. THAT is why the 2A is worded the way it is. PERIOD. BUT NONE of that matters, the first two clauses are DEPENDENT clauses and means NOTHING. THAT was the reason then, NOW it’s for self defense and in case of tyranny. PERIOD The INDEPENDENT clause is the heart and soul of the`2A, “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. PERIOD.