# Missing F-35

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713>\
**Category:** News & Current Events\
**Created:** [September 18, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713 "2023-09-18T21:18:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/21 "2023-09-19T17:06:46Z")

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> [@Russ](#):
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> They’ve found the wreckage

Was it of the plane the pilot exited? It might just be a weather balloon. Did it look like this? 🕶

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/d/f/dff12213b8574d6b895fd13689e17b27d9f7c86e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/22 "2023-09-19T18:53:02Z")

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NEWS FLASH! UPDATE! (This is sarcasm folk’s chill out)

Puddin’ Head in his psychic wisdom has just announced a BREAK Through technology (given to him by the Aliens)… (“Open the door Dave17”) that the Next Generation 'Stealth" fighters will be made out of a Synthetic (carbon free) Rubber. No Dinosaurs will be harmed in it’s production, so the next time an aircraft is stolen…I mean has a malfunction it will BOUNCE and can be recovered INTACT! according to the D.O.D! That bastion of Honesty and Security that brought you the $3000 Toilet seat and the $800 screwdriver (that has since shown up on Home Depot’s shelves for the consumer price of $8.99.

This article is brought to you by ‘Capt. Obvious’ :this is TOP SECRET News so please don’t tell anybody…  
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/23 "2023-09-19T19:01:37Z")

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HAL, I am pulling out your memory cards. 🕶

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**Author:** ![leo23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leo23/32/174333_2.png) [@leo23](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/leo23)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/24 "2023-09-19T19:09:35Z")

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> [@Don102](#):
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> 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/25 "2023-09-19T19:13:37Z")

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Sluggo!

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**Author:** ![leo23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leo23/32/174333_2.png) [@leo23](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/leo23)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/26 "2023-09-19T22:17:19Z")

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Who the hell thought it was a good idea to give marines a $100million jet in the first place  
Did it come with crayons?  
I bet they forgot the crayons and that caused the problem.

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**Author:** ![TheTwoJakes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/thetwojakes/32/139916_2.png) [@TheTwoJakes](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/TheTwoJakes)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/27 "2023-09-19T22:45:30Z")

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Meh… seems par for the course. If “weather balloons” can travel all over the country w/o setting off alarms, then why can’t an F35 - our most advanced fighter - just disappear like a fart in the wind?

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**Author:** ![Gary406](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/gary406/32/42290_2.png) [@Gary406](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Gary406)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/28 "2023-09-20T00:11:45Z")

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![OIF](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/9/3/930a652b29588460e5ff4421bc2b47e54f88e3e8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/29 "2023-09-20T02:01:13Z")

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> [@TheTwoJakes](#):
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> like a fart in the wind?

That was a GREAT song by Kansas wasn’t it? 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 Faaaaaaaaaaart in the winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆all we are is farts in the wind! Chorus: C’mon EVERYBODY! "ALL we are is farts in the Wind! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

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**Author:** ![leo23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leo23/32/174333_2.png) [@leo23](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/leo23)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/30 "2023-09-20T15:13:40Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/8/1/81467c46b1d13214032cd9d30a8653abebe0fe21.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Joseph488](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/joseph488/32/145925_2.png) [@Joseph488](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Joseph488)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/31 "2023-09-20T15:16:19Z")

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Now that made me laugh 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dave17](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dave17/32/15053_2.png) [@Dave17](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Dave17)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/33 "2023-09-20T15:50:49Z")

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And just like that, facts are provided, ruining our fun. 🕶

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**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/34 "2023-09-20T15:58:41Z")

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> [@Enzo\_T](#):
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> 5- The F-35 systems can’t be hacked

While it doesn’t seem possible to hack an F-35 to gain flight control there does seem to be significant concern over the potential to hack them in order to gain information or disrupt other functions.

> **[The F-35's Greatest Vulnerability? Being Hacked.](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a25100725/f-35-vulnerability-hacked/)**
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> The high-tech fighter can hide from radar, but hackers are a different matter.

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**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/37 "2023-09-20T17:36:45Z")

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> [@Enzo\_T](#):
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> What they are hanging their theory on is this statement:

Given the number of times companies have informed me that they allowed my personal information to be stolen I think the threat may be more than just theoretical. Especially when you have so many integrated systems constantly communicating with each other. Lots of opportunities to slip into the system either electronically or physically by a spy. Add to that the important military computer components being manufactured by one of our primary potential adversaries and the potential vulnerabilities keep increasing.

I’m actually pretty concerned about how completely dependent on technology our military is. Most of our weapon systems seem to rely on GPS these days. Those signals can be easily scrambled, spoofed or knocked out completely. I know a person in the Marines who said no one in his company knew how to navigate with a map and compass. Without a GPS signal they would all have no idea where to go.

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**Author:** ![leo23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leo23/32/174333_2.png) [@leo23](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/leo23)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/38 "2023-09-20T17:47:25Z")

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> [@Shamrock](#):
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> no one in his company knew how to navigate

you are correct about maps. my nephew went through basic training recently. he said they spent a day training with gps units but only several hrs with map reading skills.

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**Author:** ![Joseph488](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/joseph488/32/145925_2.png) [@Joseph488](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Joseph488)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/39 "2023-09-20T18:32:06Z")

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Not being able to read a map or do basic navigation by compass is a big mistake. I’m a boater, and still carry paper charts and a bearing compass. It was only in 2020 that the USCG discontinued the requirement for paper charts onboard. I do have electronic chartplotters, and an old style GPS that gives my coordinates to correlate to my paper charts, but its still a good idea to plot your location manually. What if you take a lightning hit and fry your chart plotter?

I’m pretty old school, though.

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**Author:** ![leo23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/leo23/32/174333_2.png) [@leo23](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/leo23)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/40 "2023-09-20T18:33:51Z")

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> [@Joseph488](#):
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> I’m pretty old school, though

same thing here

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**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/41 "2023-09-20T18:55:49Z")

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Most of my work requires using GPS and on screen maps but I never completely trust them.

Most of my younger coworkers run tracks on their phones or GPSs in order to be able to backtrack their way out of the areas they navigate into but I almost never run tracks because it significantly degrades my natural sense of direction when I rely on the GPS to find my way out. When I’m not running tracks my subconscious knows it needs to pay attention to the twists and turns in order to get back home.

That practice has saved me getting lost on a couple of occasions when my GPS glitched or died. It also helps me figure out how to get where I am going when the roads on the GPS map don’t match the roads on the ground which happens a lot in the remote areas I work in out here.

I also keep atlases in my vehicle. One for the US and a Delorme Topo map book for the State I am in.

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**Author:** ![TheTwoJakes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/thetwojakes/32/139916_2.png) [@TheTwoJakes](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/TheTwoJakes)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/42 "2023-09-21T02:44:22Z")

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> [@Enzo\_T](#):
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> 5- The F-35 systems can’t be hacked.

I don’t doubt your research and I am not calling you out. But years ago _they_ said the Titanic was unsinkable. If there’s anything to be learned in this present world it is that as soon as a person says “can’t”, someone does. A wildfire so devastating that an entire city is wiped out? No way. Um… Lahaina. Jus sayin.

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/missing-f-35/94713/43 "2023-09-21T04:29:00Z")

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> [@TheTwoJakes](#):
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> A wildfire so devastating that an entire city is wiped out?

Los Alamos NM. They called that one a “Controlled Burn”.

Within a day, it burned out of control and was declared a wildfire. On **May 7, 2000** , three days after ignition, the western part of Los Alamos was evacuated. On May 10, when Los Alamos Canyon started to burn, the townsite was evacuated.

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