# Looking for alternatives to PPK **URL:** \ **Category:** Guns & Gear\ **Created:** [April 28, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872 "2020-04-28T01:48:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/i_am_harry/32/25559_2.png) [@I\_am\_Harry](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/I_am_Harry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/1 "2020-04-28T01:48:54Z")
I got a PPK chambered in 380 ACP for my wife about 3 weeks ago. The main problem for her is racking the slide despite multiple YouTube videos on technique, she had carpal tunnel in the past. Walther has a 30 day guarantee and I can get my money back, about $850 before taxes. Does anyone know of any pistols with these requirements for under $850 with her requirements: 380 ACP DA/SA Hammer Fired De-cocker Safety Combo could be separate. Easy racking. No micro guns. I found a Walther pk380 but it has no de-cocker, you have to press the trigger on safe to drop the hammer. ---
**Author:** ![DBrogue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/dbrogue/32/537_2.png) [@DBrogue](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/DBrogue)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/2 "2020-04-28T02:21:36Z")
The Bersa Thunder 380 is a little better but still might not be great (I have both). I know this is not what you are looking for but someone makes a barrel racker (saw them at Cabela’s) for people with issues not unlike what you are describing. This [http://handi-racker.com/](http://handi-racker.com/) is not the one I saw but is the first one I found using Goggle. Don ---
**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/3 "2020-04-28T02:39:51Z")
Isn’t there a s&w EZ for this reason? PPK require’s significant force to rack…& $850 is $300+ too high for one. ---
**Author:** ![Jerzees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/jerzees/32/111382_2.png) [@Jerzees](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Jerzees)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/4 "2020-04-28T03:41:48Z")
I would personally go with M&P 380 EZ… but it doesn’t meet all your requirements… ---
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/i_am_harry/32/25559_2.png) [@I\_am\_Harry](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/I_am_Harry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/5 "2020-04-28T09:58:13Z")
Thanks, that looks good for the range but I don’t know about carrying that around for concealed carry. I’ll see if they carry a Bersa Thunder 380 at the shop I’m visiting. ---
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/i_am_harry/32/25559_2.png) [@I\_am\_Harry](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/I_am_Harry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/6 "2020-04-28T10:02:40Z")
@Brad @Jerzees the shield looks good but she does not like the light SA pull. I am trying to convince her on the PK380 which has almost all the requirements except the de-cocker and is easy to rack like the EZ. I’m going to a shop today to compare the EZ and PK380. I was seeing if there was anything I missed on Google. ---
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Harry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/i_am_harry/32/25559_2.png) [@I\_am\_Harry](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/I_am_Harry)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/7 "2020-04-29T12:07:04Z")
I ended up getting her a PK380 the trigger and feel of the gun was better than the EZ, the EZ was just a hair easier to rack but not much difference. There was not Bersa there. Thanks everyone for your input. ---
**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/8 "2020-04-29T13:08:28Z")
Let us know how you like it! ---
**Author:** ![Jerzees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/jerzees/32/111382_2.png) [@Jerzees](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Jerzees)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/looking-for-alternatives-to-ppk/25872/9 "2020-04-29T13:50:00Z")
Next step - teach your wife how to use safety 🙂 Happy shooting 👍