Let's talk GREY MAN

@Rocklock - do we know each other? :smiley: sounds mighty like a lot of folks I know in the MO Ozarks :smiley:

You all realize there is a book series about the Gray Man right?

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@DBrogue just started that on audiobook!

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You nailed it! In this crazy world of “triggers” that the left use as an excuse to attack anyone they disagree with I just want to be as neutral as possible. Avoid contact helps prevent conflict.

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Don, I might get one of these on Audible! I’m currently listening to the history of the 2nd Amendment.

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Im willing to bet you will enjoy it

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I’ll have to check it out

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Recently listened to the first of the gray man series on audible (thank you @DBrogue) - very well done!

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Spence you hit the nail on the head. Just look like everyone else.

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Now, the question is… how many will catch the reference.

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I do believe he was referring to your ‘blue color’ person you are…

Silver can be used, and is used most often as ‘Colloidal Silver’, for health reasons, anti bacterial… and other reasons…
But if you take too much, your skin will turn blue.

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Being “agreeable” or as you put it " gray" is a horrible way to live ones life and cannot be contrived in my experience. If you’re aware of the “big five” of personality traits, agreeability is sympathetic tendencies, politeness, empathetic, altruistic. They also tend to engage best with their peers when they’re young. Carrying could be seen as antithetical to agreeableness.

I’m not saying you’re not altruistic, empathetic/sympathetic, but this works in graduations, not one size fits all. Richard Simmons is a fantastic example of high agreeability. Barrack Obama is significantly less agreeable than Richard Simmons and Donald Trump has no agreeability whatsoever.

I dress pretty plain jane and people still trigger over everything I do and say. This isn’t just where I currently live, this is my experience everywhere I have. I’m going on 34 next month. Smartphones weren’t a thing until after I turned 21. As such I never been huge on using them. This is lack of agreeability, but when you’re carrying, you cannot have situational awareness and “normal” tendencies . So I take the risk of standing out for not being stuck in a cellphone all, to pay attention to my surroundings and I have paid for that, dearly.

Where I currently live, they are very visual, concrete and literal. Open carry works best, you’re less likely to need to use it. This is antithetical to greyman, as open carry makes you stand out.

The most important thing is adaptability over agreeability. You have to adapt to your environment more than people 's wishes. Someone could trigger because you have a Super Mario Brothers shirt on, because it is a Italian stereotype, but if it conceal your sidearm better and gives a better draw, them offending is a small price to pay.

Link for more on agreeableness: Agreeableness - Wikipedia

Link to state in the city I live in: By the numbers: Biddeford ranks the most dangerous of Maine cities

I never, ever wear fringe. Does that count?
Oh wait, I’m in CA.
Never mind. Carry on.

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I wear apparel appropriate for where I am, the time of year, and the weather

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@Sheepdog556 - its actually a pretty easy read…I would suggest reading it in small chunks at first so you get used to lyrical or Rhythms of the writing.
(that’s how it was introduced to me)

enjoy

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This has been really helpful. I’m going to try and blend in more when going to Walmart. I will at least take off the night vision.
I’m still wearing the mask though, because corona.

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I can’t like this photograph enough! Well stated @Blacky !!

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I don’t disagree with the grey man concept but I also believe that unless you are CIA or a British 00 agent it’s mostly great sounding theory, and something folks seem to Uber analyze or assign a huge level of unnecessary importance. I hope I’m not offending anyone because that’s not my intent. I just like folks to explore topics from every angle with an open mind before they decide what’s right for THEM.

If you live in an area where every truck is covered in gun stickers and everyone is either sloppily concealed packing or open carrying what’s the solution to being grey? :rofl:

BTW being grey can be a double edged sword for some. Those who remember the opening scene from Acts of Valor (great movie by the way) might remember the line from a letter from a father to his son.

“Before my father died, he said the worst thing about growing old was that other men stopped seeing you as dangerous. I’ve always remembered that, how being dangerous was sacred, a badge of honor. You live your life by a code, an ethos. Every man does. It’s your shoreline. It’s what guides you home. And trust me, you’re always trying to get home.”

We teach courses that encourage folks to not look like victims because criminals are cowards. And then we tell them to just blend in with the rat if the sheep? Which one is it?

And the myth of the “shoot me first” garb is just that, and internet myth. I have never found one piece of credible evidence of any civilian getting shot first because of wearing a Glock hat. If anyone has some I’d love to read it. But even if you do find one, one incident in a country if 349,000,000 is an aberration, NOT a trend. AND, I believe there is danger to an elderly person that wants to be grey, because they will be singled out of the “herd” by predators just for who they are. When I’m 90 my walker will probably be sporting a BIG Glock sticker.

I believe water finds its own level and folks need to make themselves comfortable. I also believe that humans REALLY believe they are the center of the universe and everyone is specifically looking at them. Neither is true.

I teach classes every weekend where I specifically wear a Glock 17 AIWB that I know is CLEARLY printing under a light shirt and after 5 hours walking and talking in front of a group of 20-30 students I ask if anyone in the room KNOWS I have a gun in me. Usually only a small handful of folks will raise their hand. Then I ask if your hand is up because I’m the instructor and you “assume” I have a gun on me then lower it. I usually end up wit MAYBE 1 person that has actually looked at me well enough to actually make the gun I’m carrying.

I don’t go around wearing 5:11 pants everywhere I go, they are too expensive to be every day wear for no good reason, or just for show. BUT, they do make very high quality, SUPER tough and incredibly comfortable gear that I wear while teaching (tons of usable pockets) or during my heavy personal range drill sessions when dragging my sorry but through dirt, rocks and bushes is a distinct possibility. And I’m NOT going to change when I’m headed to the classroom/range or drive back from it because I might catch a random stare at Lowe’s, which I’m sure I don’t…

So when I do see someone wearing a Glock shirt, or a 2A cap or a huge American Flag on their jacket I think “GOOD FOR YOU!!!” And I’m happy they are that comfortable and unafraid of expressing who they truly are! And I’m sure as they are walking down a street, there is some coward criminal thinking, nope, not THAT one…

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Stumbled across a fairly good article on gray man/woman strategy. Do we do the same for our cars; Little to no stickers of hunting or shooting?

But like the other post, to avoid being shot at while in our cars, do we want bigger stronger cars, but no logos which suggest we are armed?

Do we also want our cars to convey “gray man”?

Reading link:
The Gray Man Theory: 16 Effective Ways to Apply It.

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