# It's on Camera, Somewhere - Self Defense?

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115>\
**Category:** News & Current Events\
**Created:** [September 3, 2026, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115 "2026-09-03T19:30:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/1 "2026-09-03T19:30:46Z")

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> **[Man detained for TRAX stabbing not arrested](https://www.ksl.com/article/51619768/man-detained-for-trax-stabbing-not-arrested)**
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> A man who was detained and questioned for allegedly stabbing another man on a TRAX train Wednesday was not booked into the Salt Lake County Jail.

“He was having some sort of mental break,” Gustafson said Wednesday."

“When another passenger confronted him, Gustafson said that passenger was stabbed twice.”

“Despite being taken into custody, the man was released after being questioned.”

The UTA Have the evidence, they saw it all on at least 4 cameras, other passengers saw it all happen, starting to look like self defense?

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/2 "2026-09-03T19:39:13Z")

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> [@Mike164](#):
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> He was having some sort of mental break

Not sure I would approach someone undergoing an episode like that.

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**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/3 "2026-09-03T21:33:30Z")

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> [@BeanCounter](#):
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> Not sure I would approach someone undergoing an episode like that.

Not with, at least, some Edison Medicine!

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/4 "2026-09-03T21:40:53Z")

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> [@Karacal](#):
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> some Edison Medicine

It didn’t work on the NYC woman 🤷🏽‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/5 "2026-09-03T21:50:05Z")

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A F-350 with a set of jumper cables would have! (They come with two batteries)

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/6 "2026-09-03T21:54:06Z")

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> [@Karacal](#):
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> Not with, at least, some Edison Medicine!

So what your saying is Henry Energy ‘see what I did there’?

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**Author:** ![mattm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mattm/32/178411_2.png) [@mattm](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/mattm)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/7 "2026-09-03T22:29:14Z")

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> [@BeanCounter](#):
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> Not sure I would approach someone undergoing an episode like that.

Approach softly and with respect (or not), be ready to back off . Article states a confrontational encounter which is probably why the subject walked, at least for now. I worked in a psych ward for awhile back in my youth, and it was interesting watching several of the other employees get attacked by the same people who I never had an issue with. I had three murderers under my care,one killed a prostitute, 2 killed family members. No guns. Rage. The other four had interesting stories as well, though I’ll never forget Jimmy, who had ocd like you can’t believe. Drill Sergeant father, go figure. I also spent a couple years on the road, lot of time with the fellow homeless in San Francisco and the Cuban exiles in Miami. Young and dumb,but learned a lot about avoiding confrontation. Sometimes you need to out crazy the crazies, but generally a little respect goes a long way.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/8 "2026-09-03T22:48:51Z")

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> [@mattm](#):
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> Approach softly and with respect (or not), be ready to back off

Agreed.

I indirectly work with kids who are in “homes” for various reasons. They remember my name and look forward to visiting me as a form of behavioral incentive.

In the setting as described by news reports, I wouldn’t want to be involved, unless I have to.

Let Mamdani’s social workers handle it.

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**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/9 "2026-09-03T22:50:06Z")

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> [@BeanCounter](#):
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> I indirectly work with kids who are in “homes” for various reasons.

and a stray cat. 😀

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/10 "2026-09-03T23:00:05Z")

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> [@Karacal](#):
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> a stray cat

I’m good at hiding my dark side 😈

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:35am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/11 "2026-09-04T01:35:01Z")

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Yes, I have also dealt with a lot of people that acted violent toward others, but never toward me. Give a person proper deference, but make clear that you are not to be f’d with, too.

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**Author:** ![mattm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mattm/32/178411_2.png) [@mattm](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/mattm)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/12 "2026-09-04T02:57:31Z")

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> [@Dave17](#):
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> you are not to be f’d with, too.

My wife says it’s my piercing eyes, crooked nose and monobrow, while I swear it’s my sparkling personality.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 4:12am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/13 "2026-09-04T04:12:46Z")

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Starting to look like a pile of horse manure. Let’s have some ID’s and nationalities front and center. Nowadays with the cops and the media it’s what they don’t say that matters.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 5:05am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/14 "2026-09-04T05:05:37Z")

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> [@TheProtonSpinner](#):
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> Nowadays with the cops and the media it’s what they don’t say that matters.

Got to fit the narrative 🤷🏽‍♂️

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/15 "2026-09-04T19:02:27Z")

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> [@Karacal](#):
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> A F-350 with a set of jumper cables would have! (They come with two batteries)

Just hook em up to their ‘Neeples’ amirite! 🤪 ⚡ ⚡ Buzz Buzz! Muahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/16 "2026-09-04T19:07:39Z")

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> [@mattm](#):
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> Sometimes you need to out crazy the crazies,

I think that’s why whenever somebody said ‘I have this half baked crazy idea to win the battle, itsa little OUT THERE! but the probability of it working out and all of you coming home intact is rather good’…

and I would say ‘SEND ME!’ (stoopid Arse!) 😵

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:12am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/17 "2026-09-05T06:12:32Z")

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> **[Man accused of Salt Lake TRAX stabbing is arrested](https://www.ksl.com/article/51620384/man-accused-of-salt-lake-trax-stabbing-is-arrested)**
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> A day after UTA said the investigation into a stabbing on a TRAX train on Wednesday was on-going, the alleged attacker was taken into custody.

Guess the cops changed their minds…

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/18 "2026-09-05T12:18:14Z")

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> [@Mike164](#):
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> Guess the cops changed their minds…

‘Community Policing @ it’s best! huh?’

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/19 "2026-09-05T17:45:38Z")

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> **[Man accused of Salt Lake TRAX stabbing is arrested](https://www.ksl.com/article/51620384/man-accused-of-salt-lake-trax-stabbing-is-arrested)**
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> A day after UTA said the investigation into a stabbing on a TRAX train on Wednesday was on-going, the alleged attacker was taken into custody.

A little more info…

I’m following this to point out how easy it can be to get into a terrible situation. A crowded train. A guy talking to himself with load music… A skater with an attitude…

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/its-on-camera-somewhere-self-defense/133115/20 "2026-09-05T18:59:34Z")

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> “What are going to do about it?”

That’s when the skater realized he crossed the point of no return.

I’m not saying the stabbing suspect wasn’t at fault.

Lesson here, as a defender, don’t be the first to cross the point of no return.

My shitty neighbor announces his arrival by playing loud music from his car that causes the entire neighborhood to shake. Is it worth the trouble? Nah.

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