Is it time to legalize drugs?

I may have changed my mind. :thinking:

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We are long past time for the government to stop controlling the Right of an individual (adult) to choose what to put into their own body

Marijuana as a specific example, it’s just plain silly…to put it mildly…that this is illegal let alone a major federal crime. Like, no. Just…no

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Marijuana is really ridiculous in that it’s illegal in many states and a federal crime. As a registered GOP I think the GOP’s arguments against it are equally ridiculous, especially when considering the effects of alcohol are equally as bad and not to mention the amount of deaths resulting from DUI’s.

Certain psychedelics are proving to be therapeutic in managing mental conditions including PSD. It’s unfortunate that veterans wanting to explore that option need to go to Mexico or elsewhere to have it done.

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I would say the effects of alcohol or orders of magnitude worse.

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that happens when you eat the whole thing
my brother(fellow veteran) makes Mr. magoo chocolate its very tasty :crazy_face:

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But you’re still here and probably none the worse, in all seriousness, over indulge in the alcohol and you might have actually literally died

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The war on drugs began in earnest with the Nixon Administration (the gift that keeps on giving). It originated in a cynical political ploy to criminalize Nixon’s enemies – the hippies who opposed the war in Vietnam and blacks who were demanding civil rights.

It also ignored the disaster of Prohibition which did not stop Americans from drinking, but merely enriched organized crime and gave us the NFA which diminished the 2nd Amendment guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms.

Along the way, the 50-year multitrillion $$ failed war on drugs caused untold deaths and political collapse in South and Central America, which led to the crisis on the southern border as people flee drug cartels. “We’re here from government to help.”

A good read on the Nicon origins on the war on drugs is Dan Baum’s article “Legalize it All” that appeared in Harpers some years ago.

Legalize It All, by Dan Baum (harpers.org)

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IMHO, extremely dangerous logic! I guess I’m not ready for my pilot to be wasted on psilocybin while the cabin crew hands out tabs of acid with my peanuts!
I’d much rather know my surgeon had a great bottle Chateau Cheval Blanc ‘47 than 17 grams Mexicali Cocanus Sinoloan 2022.

Alcohol stays in the body maybe, 24 hours, drugs, synthetic or not, tend to stay in the body for up to 2 - 3 days.
Not that I have any experience with this.
It was an unsupervised experiment! :innocent:

I hope we’re not saying that if murder was legal, Charles Manson or Ted Buddy would not exist! Logically, if we could’ve stopped 10,000 murders because of the desperate need for crack. Then we can surely reduce kidnappings by 50%, if rape were legal???

Am I that off base? Every generation, we go further down the rabbit hole!
We are already making strides towards the legalization of pedophilia!
I don’t even want to ask what could be next!

In addition, as a gun owner, legalization of drugs, not a chance! Especially not during the most irresponsible of generations!

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I could be wrong but doesn’t it sound similar to a Planned Parenthood statement?

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No. And anyone that compares alcohol to heroin is a %#!*$. We should however protect the weakest of us, including those that would be consumed out of bad decisions in their youth.

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Another concern is the crime that addiction generates. When one needs a fix, they will do damn near anything to get it. This usually involves some sort of property crime to get the money needed. It often will result in violent crime to achieve the same end. Legalization of hard drugs is a really bad idea.

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It’s a loose, loose situation when it comes to keeping drugs illegal, or legalizing them. If you keep them illegal, you’re stuck in the same situation probably getting worse with time. But if you legalize them, you will have a different set of problems. Every addict is out looking for a better high, so either the government starts experimenting with different chemicals to make the addicts satisfied or the drug cartels will continue to stay in business as usual, but it will probably become legal for them to do so. Most of the addicts won’t want to work to support their addiction so now you either still have a crime problem or the government will have to step in to supply them with the drugs at no cost just to keep the crime rate from getting worse. Now how will the government pay for the supply of free drugs? Our taxes will go up so Medicaid would be able to pay for it. and the crime rate will still go up because the government will limit the amount of drugs the addict can get, so it’s back to the dealers on the street. Then you have the problem of overdoses. Since it will be a government run program, when an addict overdoses the surviving family will file a lawsuit because they supplied the drugs that killed their loved one. So, what about the people who use drugs and wok to support their habit. They may decide that their job is a drag and decide to get a little buzz on before leaving for work. Can you imagine the workman’s comp cases that are going to increase, the flaws in manufacturing etc.? Now I can go on and on about this but in reality, the only way to solve the drug problem is for people to come to their senses and stop doing or experimenting with drugs. But as far as I’m concerned, I have a better chance of walking on the sun and only getting a suntan!

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I’m not proposing that drug use should be legal for youths. Just talking about adults, straight age of majority of 18.

Protect us from ourselves…yes that is indeed the logic of government regulating away individual Rights and Liberties

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I don’t think you’re off base; it sounds like you’ve been freebasing since before it was cool, to put it plainly. Same argument they make about guns and kids and schools.

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Have you worked blue collar? News flash, meth and oxycodone are what keep American industry and industrial manufacturing alive and well. When the jobs go away you get meth towns with fentanyl overdoses. I’m a rigger by the way, harder blue collar work than most construction. I know what is actually happening with drug addicts and dealers in America today; my neighbor is a user and it’s sad to see but he’s fine when he can work without legal issues from a bad divorce way back. Notice I don’t need hypotheticals to talk about this?

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