I felt alive!

There are those moments you truly feel alive. Like when you are hiding behind a tree with bullets whizzing past your head and some of them cracking into the tree. Or, the first time you come off the starting line with an engine between your legs at 9,000 RPM, waiting for the tree to turn green.

I test drove a 2022 Shelby GT500 Mustang last week. It was the first time in a long time I was more focused on the tachometer than the speedometer. The last car I drove like that was a purpose built 10 second 350 with the tach mounted on the hood and no speedometer.

I drove up to meet my son to celebrate not only his, but my grandsonā€™s birthdays. Upon arrival on Thursday night, he said he had a surprise for me on Friday. His long time buddy showed up with a modified Camaro ZL1 (exhaust, cam, etc) . I rode with his buddy to test drive the GT500. My son drove my car with my wife. When we arrived at the dealership they told us we would have to have a salesman ride with us. I let my son that did drift racing in Japan take the 1st ride to feel out the salesman. Prior to my son taking the wheel, my sonā€™s friend and I sat in the running GT500 over-riding all the safety stuff to get it into full track mode ā€“ his friend knew a lot more about it than me! When they got back I knew my son had taken the salesman for a memorable ride!

My son told the salesman if he thought he had just an exciting ride, then he was really going to enjoy riding with Dad. Based on what we arrived in, plus my sonā€™s driving, the salesman looked at me and said ā€œletā€™s do it!ā€

My son had taken it relatively easy coming out of the parking lot ā€“ I did not. The GT500 is a Dual-Clutch-Transmission (DCT), which basically means it is an automatic with paddle shifters as far as I am concerned. I didnā€™t want to punch it too hard and go sideways turning onto the road, but the darn thing shifted into 2nd gear long before I was ready - I thought it would wait for me to paddle shift, but it didnā€™t. I did not waste the next opportunity I got to straight line accelerate. I made sure the road ahead was clear and paddle shifted it down into 1st gear. With the accelerator at the firewall, redline came quick and then I redlined 2nd and close to redline in 3rd. I really didnā€™t want to let off, but I did. It had felt so good I didnā€™t want to be disappointed with 4th gear. At that point I looked over at the salesman and said ā€œI wonder if that car with the blue lights wants us to let them byā€ He checked his side mirror and I said ā€œGot ā€˜cha!ā€ He said ā€œDamn, you locked me into this seat belt!ā€ He was grinning like a possum.

From a technical perspective, I get the DCT, but I still prefer a lower HP if it has a manual transmission with a real clutch. So, for right now, my search will continue for a either a Camaro or Mustang with a clutch. I think a single plane driveshaft, 8,500 RPM GT350 deserves a serious test drive. I know it is only 525 HP (or so) vs. the 760 HP of the GT500. What can I say, I am an old guy looking for that last quick car before I die.

Gary H

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Yes! More of THAT!

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Iā€™m not really a car guy, but that was a good read! Well written and exciting! It was fun to read!

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Something with good torque and the ability to crawl up cliff sides where people do not want to walk.

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Ditto :blush:

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I enjoyed your story! It took me back to some fast cars Iā€™ve been able to drive.

Maybe itā€™s an age thing. Iā€™d been driving for 20 years before I got my first automatic transmission car. I didnā€™t like it. I only own a truck now, but driversā€™ cars need 3 pedals. I did have the chance to drive a Maserati a few times with a DCT/paddle shifter setup like that, and once I got used to it, it was fine, but I always felt more connected to a car with a standard transmission.

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I remember test driving my 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 at the dealerā€¦It was one of a kind with the unusual options I ordered (back when you could order individual options).

Did we just start a car thread? :exploding_head: I picked this up a few weeks back and am sorting out a few performance items before it officially goes on the road. It is no muscle car, but with a quickie tune for OEM condition it is ~280 HP and TQ. I havenā€™t driven it much yet, but Car & Driver said, ā€œDrivers here appreciated the Legacyā€™s big power - 0 to 60 mph in 5.3 seconds and a 14.1-second quarter-mile - concealed in a modest but sleek exterior, which made flying below police suspicion that much easier.ā€ Not bad for a 20 year old car I bought from an elderly couple w/28k miles on it.

You eagle eyes may notice the front plate.

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Nice. I like sleepers like that. I recently sold a last generation Pontiac Grand Prix that had the supercharged 3.8 that was a decent sleeper. I changed the cam and did a whole custom exhaust including stainless headers that opened it up really well. My little performance app/Bluetooth OBD setup had it at 5.3 seconds 0-60 when I was done with it, but it still cruised at 29 MPG. I put about 120,000 miles on it before selling it. It was a comfortable fast highway cruiser.

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Iā€™ve always loved sleepers!

That is one of the reasons I am looking at Mustangs and Camaros vs. Corvettes - of course price of the higher performance Corvettes is another show-stopper :wink: Unless you know what you are looking for even the Shelbyā€™s look pretty much like a generic Mustang.

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Early 90ā€™s I drove for Firestone as an exhibition driver. We toured Firestoneā€™s all over the Country with 4 identically set up Saleen Mustangs, except the tires were different. 2 of the 4 Mustangā€™s had crap tires and 2 had the latest Z rated performance Firehawk tires. The difference was huge. But we would work out the cars after we demoā€™d the tires in each region. GD was it fun to take a performance tuned beast of a car and drive it right to the ragged edge of control. I can hum a few bars of being a gear head and turning a wrench but Iā€™m not knowledgeable enough to be good at it. But I can drive the wheels off of a car. I miss that.

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A friend of mine had a Saleen Mustang. I donā€™t know what tires it had, but he could make me nervous with lateral Gā€™s in it :+1:

Thru the years I have had friends that owned performance cars. One had a '72 Trans-Am with the SD-455, another a Mercury Cyclone with a 429, to name a couple. I was always more into performance motorcycles and have never personally owned what I considered a high performance car. Itā€™s time for me to have one - with creature comforts :rofl:

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My wife has the Subaru Ascent with the 2.4 direct injected turbo. Itā€™s a good feeling, surprisingly strong motor in that car. Iā€™m a big Subaru fan. Good engineering.

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My daily driver now is the luxury performance Nissan 370 convertible. I got hit a few dozen times on my Ninja so my wife made motorcycles a no joy decision. But man, i.love that little car. Itā€™s deceptively fast but can corner like you wouldnā€™t believe.

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ā€œtalk to me, Gooseā€

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It screams,
ā€œIā€™m not a bleeding heart California liberal!ā€

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One of my favorites was a 1981 Suzuki 1100 I dumped a lot of money into. Not a lot by today standards, but a lot back then. Major changes included Weisco high compression big bore kit, 33mm Mikuni smooth bore carbs, cams, better clutch with strengthened clutch basket and Kerker 4 into 1. I street drove and track drag raced that one for years. I can tell you I donā€™t miss push starting that one. The electric starter wasnā€™t designed to handle the high compression and there was no kick starter.

The last one was a 2004 Yamaha R1. That bike was a blast right off the show room floor. Unfortunately, my oldest son totaled it one day. He was cruising along a 40 mph street when a car coming towards him turned right in front of him. Odd how wives turn against bikes after that :thinking:

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Yeaā€¦girls can be fickle. lol

Very cool bike. My brother had a GS1150E. He got out of the sport after getting a rod in his leg, but Iā€™ve been at it since the mid 80s, mostly riding in the mountains and coaching at track days for years now. I also owned a few R1s, but never gelled with them. Just too much to manage.

I frequently refurb an older bike every winter or two. FZ refurb (probably one of the best looking bikes I did), my first bike, a Suzuki GS700ES, and a few Iā€™ve had.

87GS700ES

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I watched some of your videos you linked. What you do is on a whole different level than me :+1:

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More leaning. Less speed.

That ancient R6 is a 2003 vintage. First try at FIā€¦and it is mostly stock. Pretty incredible ability right out of the crate, and theyā€™re dirt cheap and rarely break.

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