“Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15, your AK-47”... “Come and Take It” An Interesting Editorial

While this editorial was written by the Chairman of Republican Party of Texas, it is his discussion about the Second Amendment that interested me and not his party rhetoric.

A few things that stood out to me in his editorial:

False narrative addressed with facts:

false narratives that many firearms are obtained through the “gun-show loophole.” The U.S. Department of Justice determined that 77% of firearms involved in criminal activity were obtained from “street/illegal sources” or “friends and family,” which includes theft of firearms, black market purchases and straw purchases. Only 0.8% obtained a firearm from gun shows.

View on this phrase:

“Come and Take It” was not a polite invitation to those in authority. It was, in fact, a challenge to a dictator threatening physical violence on people who simply wanted to live freely and defend themselves against tyranny.

How do you feel about his description of “Come and Take it”?

Remember, this is a public forum. We can express a lot of views without any sort of self-incrimination or veiled threats.

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When it comes to gun sales, most politicians don’t know the process. The don’t base their opinion on knowledge or fact. Come and take it to me is a phrase used when replying to a tyrannical government or dictator. The original intent was that Congress represented us the people.

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Interesting question. My firearms are safe and secure and they will remain that way. I have no intention of turning in any firearms and I do not see the government in Kentucky assisting in enforcing a federal law which is explicitly unconstitutional. I think we will see a split amongst the states. My guess is that the map will look very similar to the red and blue map from the last presidential election.

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I could see a split within the state I live, Illinois. Only 10% of the counties don’t vote red, but, since Chicago has the population, downstate is ignored. But, downstate is full of men, women, boys, and girls who own and are proficient with all manor of firearms.

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I hear you @45IPAC. My fear is that Cook county will prevail at the state level in support of any type of ban and enforcement.

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time to stop spending money on politician’s and lobbyists and start yellow vest type protests. Also check out the rally in Washington DC www.2ndamendmentrally.com

If it comes to it…

Victory or Valhalla my friends.

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The crux of the question is “at what point do we recognize that our freedoms are no longer free?” When does the silent majority suddenly become an entity with a voice? I fear it may occur when our legal chance of recourse has been lost due to our silence. It has occurred once before

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Cheers,

Craig6

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It is crazy how the sea of green is governed by the blotches of red on the Illinois map.

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Exactly! If you live in IL it shows how little representation “down state” counties have in Springfield. If you live anywhere else this shows the value of the Electoral College.

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And the local news outlets, are drinking the Kool-Aid. They sensor out any pro-gun, pro-conservative stories, and also put a negative spin on anything about guns, or a Republican.

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Tried to post a screenshot of Michigan’s political map but it bugged out. All states should have the electoral college platform, otherwise it’s just the cities dictating what the rural communities have to live with via mob rule. The 3 major cities in Michigan (Detroit, Flint, Lansing) hold 80% of the population of the state (the entire Upper Peninsula only accounts for 3% of the States population, the city of Marquette holds 50+% of the Upper Peninsula’s population.)

Mob rule should not be the way. Give each county 1 electoral vote, the majority vote in each county says where that electoral vote goes.

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His description is spot on. A simple reading of the Declaration of Independence affirms this. There is another truth out there that cannot be avoided. Democrats and their party want to change America from what it is into some socialist dreamland. To avoid that is to have blinders on.

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Well put, most people won’t recklessly risk jail time or worse till there are no other options. We can still vote, we still have a voice. Yes it’s under attack and it is very clear at this point it has nothing to do with safety.

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I think that quote is more correctly “Come and Take It … If You Can” or “… If You Dare”.
Can’t imagine a grown adult not getting the implication of the shorter statement though.

It’s the tyranny of the masses.

“Which is better - to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away or by three thousand tyrants one mile away?” ~ Mather Byles, 1706-1788

In Illinois, I think you have achieved the latter.

From one of my favorite movies The Patriot … Perhaps a few words modified here and there might describe where we, individually, are. And where others who are not activists, individually, are.

I’m just going to leave this right here:

Benjamin Martin: Would you tell me, please, Mister Howard, why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a King can.

Colonel Burwell: Captain Martin, I understood you to be a Patriot.

Benjamin Martin: If you mean by “Patriot,” am I angry about taxation without representation? Why, yes, I am. Should the American colonies govern themselves independently? I believe they can and they should. But if you’re asking me am I willing to go to war with England? Well then the answer is most definitely no! … But mark my words. This war will be fought not on the frontier or on some distant battlefield, but amongst us – among our homes. Our children will learn of it with their own eyes. And the innocent will die with the rest of us. I will not fight. And because I will not fight, I will not cast a vote that will send others to fight in my stead.

Colonel Burwell: And your principles?

Benjamin Martin: I’m a parent. I haven’t got the luxury of principles.

When people believe they have too much to loose, they won’t act.
When people believe they have already lost too much, that’s when they move.
Just sayin’.

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I have really liked seeing things like this come out and things like this said because for so long for so many of them many of the Republican party have had no spine and we have gotten to a point where things such as this need to be said, we can not be casual or afraid to say the things that need to be said, to be strong to be bold. To say bold and right things is not to be malicious or violent this is just the appropriate response to the situation Showing that we are not afraid that we are not defenseless and that we will not lie on the ground belly up allowing tyranny without due process

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Nuff said…

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@45IPAC. Down state Illinois is ignored, western IL, every geographic location except Cook, Lake, maybe here in DuPage depends on what day it is but never at election time, we all count at least for a week or two Chet.

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I get the sentiment, but I wouldn’t advertise it. :smiley:

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