Government Shutdown

Not to worry, Republicans have a good handle on things, and the Demoncrats are panicking as the year end nears, as they’re calling out their bluffs, surely, they’ll come to a compromise, just as long as the Republicans keep the stronghold going. We wanted our Country back and that’s why Trump was CHOSEN and he will get us back on track whether these people like it or not.

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Dumbs as usual will throw up as many blockades as possible like they did in his first term but he is surrounded by America first loyalists this time around and what he can’t get done Vance will finish during his 2 terms.

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Thank you Donald John Trump!

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We can’t sleep through the midterms. If we’re able to flip a few seats, we can avoid this happening again for a couple of years.

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Soooooooooooo, I’m not the only one thinking ‘THIS CAN’T CONTINUE’ this way huh?
One day in the near future I feel these Unhinged folk’s will cross that Line and there will be…
‘Sparks’
The fact that the Looney Left HAVE NO FACTS, just Lies and Threats some idiots will cross that line.
I’m actually surprised it hasn’t happened already
Trump’s working his Arse off! and They continue to put up Road Blocks—NOW! this hits their Leftist Free loaders and Lazy asses in the ‘Bread Basket’ so to speak. BOOM! :collision:
(as for the idiot in the picture? Stop posting on Tik Tocky , get a friggin’ Job! and miss a meal occasionally!)

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Don 102 the only time I dont want ‘‘sparks’’ is wen I am shooting ‘‘cap n ball revolver’’

chain fires are too exciting but other than that let er rip :zany_face:

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My Opinion Only (Moo!) The Socialists WANT ANARCHY! They WANT Violence in the streets!
(If anyone CAN’T see this in their actions to date please stop reading my Posts)
This I SEE CLEARLY! What say you?
Their attempts at De-Throneing our ‘Emperor’ (said in jest to make their Fuzzy Lil Heads EXPLODE!) So they can regain their ‘POWER’! is also clear to me. My thoughts are the Demoncrats as a Party are KAPUT!, Finished, They’ve acted so badly, Childish (‘Having 42 Million Americans lose their Food Stamps is the ONLY LEVERAGE WE HAVE!’) Seriously? Really? you actually said this? Yup! they did (and they mean every word)
This is going to be another WATERSHED MOMENT in America’s History.
The demise of the Socialist Demoncrat party–they want so badly for this Country to FAIL CATASTROPHICALLY! it doesn’t matter how many Innocents, Citizens, Patriots DIE! so they get their chance at the BIG CHAIR.
Brothers and Sisters this better not happen.
Trump PROVED without a shadow of a doubt his VISION of America and 3/4’ers of the country said ‘Hell Yeah!’ (basically in many forms of that phrase obviously :rofl:) Throughout history, all over the World the ‘Socialists/Communists, Marxists have always FAILED. They spend all your money, then try and start an Internal destruct when the People turn on them. You CAN’T feed everyone for free!, Free Bus service, Free Healthcare, FREE FREE FREE with no Jobs, No Effort of the peoples part and NO HOPE!. They want us down, depressed, Dependent (on them) and Broken.
Killing Trump, or Jailing him is their End game. In that we will be DEMORALIZED—they really don’t know us @ all. This is INSURRECTION, It’s TREASON and Sedition. Look @ Newsome, his Aunt Pelosi, the Clintons—RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME!’ Taking a piece of Cake from the Marie Antionette playbook.

The Looney Left NEEDS a Civil War
Let’s Oblige them
WWG1WGA

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“I just got back from Asia where I met the Leaders of many Countries, including China, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and others. It was a Great Honor to meet them but, more particularly, to see that America is respected again — RESPECTED LIKE NEVER BEFORE! Great Trade Deals were made, Long Term relationships now exist, and money is pouring into our Country because of Tariffs and, frankly, the Landslide Results of the 2024 Presidential Election. The one question that kept coming up, however, was how did the Democrats SHUT DOWN the United States of America, and why did the powerful Republicans allow them to do it? The fact is, in flying back, I thought a great deal about that question, WHY?

Majority Leader John Thune, and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, are doing a GREAT job, but the Democrats are Crazed Lunatics that have lost all sense of WISDOM and REALITY. It is a sick form of the now “legendary” Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) that only comes from losing too much. They want Trillions of Dollars to be taken from our Healthcare System and given to others, who are not deserving — People who have come into our Country illegally, many from prisons and mental institutions. This will hurt American citizens, and Republicans will not let it happen. It is now time for the Republicans to play their “TRUMP CARD,” and go for what is called the Nuclear Option — Get rid of the Filibuster, and get rid of it, NOW! Just a short while ago, the Democrats, while in power, fought for three years to do this, but were unable to pull it off because of Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona. Never have the Democrats fought so hard to do something because they knew the tremendous strength that terminating the Filibuster would give them. They want to substantially expand (PACK!) the United States Supreme Court, make Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico States (Thereby automatically picking up 4 Senate seats, many House seats, and at least 8 Electoral Votes!), and many other highly destructive things. Well, now WE are in power, and if we did what we should be doing, it would IMMEDIATELY end this ridiculous, Country destroying “SHUT DOWN.” If the Democrats ever came back into power, which would be made easier for them if the Republicans are not using the Great Strength and Policies made available to us by ending the Filibuster, the Democrats will exercise their rights, and it will be done in the first day they take office, regardless of whether or not we do it. In addition to all of the other things we would get, such as the best Judges, the best U.S. Attorneys, the best of everything, this was a concept from years ago of then President Barack Hussein Obama and former Majority Leader Harry Reid in order to take advantage of the Republicans. Now I want to do it in order to take advantage of the Democrats….”

“….BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE GONE STONE COLD “CRAZY,” THE CHOICE IS CLEAR — INITIATE THE “NUCLEAR OPTION,” GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER AND, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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This young man explains the shutdown in a way that EVEN DEMOCRATS might understand. (But I doubt it)

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a man wearing glasses , a green jacket and a black hat is making a funny face .

NOT THE FACTS!!!

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If you actually want to have a real discussion about this (which I also doubt), while many of the facts he states are true, he is using them to draw the wrong conclusion. If you recall the BBB is a spending measure, which under senate rules only requires a majority vote, not the 60% vote to to create normal laws. So there was no coming together, no compromise, no negotiation and no normal govt functioning that took place in the BBB. Democrats were completely shut out. So to say that a debt limit continuing resolution is not the place to force a discussion on health care funding is not correct because it is the ONLY place to force that discussion. Raising the debt ceiling requires a 60% vote in the Senate under filibuster rules. Which is why Trump is now asking to end the filibuster rule.

Regarding the increased subsidies being temporary is also true. There are many many areas of spending that are “temporary” and have to be extended all the time and extensions are the typical norm. The increased ACA subsidies were temporarily put in place by the American Rescue Plan in 2021 – during covid. But they were made “permanent” by the Inflation Reduction Act – as permanent as most spending measures are. The Trump tax cuts from his 2016 term were also temporary. And when the BBB extended those massive tax cuts for the rich, republicans refused to acknowledge that they were expiring and being extended, but instead claimed they were actually cutting the deficit through the Medicaid cuts, and the tax cuts for the rich don’t count because were already part of the law. Can’t have it both ways. If extending the Trump tax cuts are the norm, then extending the ACA subsidies are also the norm.

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Local grocery store workers in today’s morning meeting instructed in no uncertain terms they’re NOT to apprehend individual looters.

If there’s a mob, call 911.

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And let’s not forget the real reason the House is not trying to solve the shutdown. If the house goes back into session, the new democrat congresswoeman must be sworn in and she is the deciding vote to release the Epstien files. So speaker Johnson (should I say Ms. Johnson?) can’t let that happen.

The Senate is in session and has been in session the whole time. Johnson shut down the house and sent all of the republicans home so there can’t be a vote on Epstien, but that also means there can’t be a vote to resolve the shutdown. Trump would rather starve kids than release the files.

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It was a reconciliation bill and was done completely within the law and “normal” order. This makes the second portion of your statement, “no normal govt functioning that took place in the BBB”, false.

Elections have consequences. Your democrat party lost.

It is not correct, period. There is no scenario where holding the government and American people hostage to force the minority party’s demands into fruition is correct or appropriate. What you’re describing is what spoiled pre-teens do in an effort to get their way, which is no more appropriate than what the democrats are doing.

The appropriate time and place to negotiate bills is through appropriations, which requires an open government. This is what the clean, non-partisan CR would do, open the government so that bills, including those that would impact healthcare, can be proposed, negotiated, and voted on.

They weren’t made permanent, or “as permanent as most spending measures are”. They were temporary, expiring this year. That is legislation that the democrats wrote and passed. You cannot blame the Republicans for an expiration date created by the democrats.

This is absolutely false. Trump ran on and stated regularly through the campaign that one of the things he was going to do was for his previous tax cuts. No one denied that and certainly didn’t “refuse” to acknowledge it. It was literally one of his campaign promises. Also, it is a lie you and the democrats repeat often, that the tax cuts were only for the rich. All of the tax brackets were lowered less two, the 10% and the 35% brackets. Every other bracket was lowered.

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This is just dumb.

For a brief moment, I thought you may be serious about wanting to have a real discussion.

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That’s mighty Christian of you.

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There’s nothing we can do for this poor man.

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You know how to tell when you’ve upset a liberal?
a man wearing glasses , a green jacket and a black hat is making a funny face .

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Anyone?

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