# Dropped self defence insurance **URL:** \ **Category:** Legal & Second Amendment\ **Created:** [March 9, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027 "2024-03-09T16:55:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nuthatch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nuthatch/32/99209_2.png) [@Nuthatch](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nuthatch)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/1 "2024-03-09T16:55:37Z")
I’ve been seeing several stories and videos involving USCCA dropping coverage in self defence shootings. While I’m not completly beliving everything said, what real assurances do i have if I’m involved in one just protecting myself, or others from iminent bodily harm? I’m getting concerned I might be wasting my money. ---
**Author:** ![Levi2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/levi2/32/16223_2.png) [@Levi2](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Levi2)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/2 "2024-03-09T17:04:08Z")
If you’re talking about Kayla Giles…USCCA doesn’t cover cold blooded murder. ---
**Author:** ![Nuthatch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nuthatch/32/99209_2.png) [@Nuthatch](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nuthatch)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/3 "2024-03-09T17:06:28Z")
No, not that one. There’s others though. Been coming up on my youtube and news. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/4 "2024-03-09T17:14:50Z")
There are two examples being spread around on YouTube. One was premeditated murder (Giles), the other was not, despite competitor claims to the contrary, ever dropped or denied (Alan Colie). 800,000+ members, 20+ years of USCCA, thousands of members that have had tens of millions paid out following acts of self defense, and the competitors are pointing to a premeditated murder from 2018 and a guy currently appealing with an attorney paid for by USCCA member benefits. Looks pretty good to me? ---
**Author:** ![George98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/george98/32/28818_2.png) [@George98](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/George98)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/5 "2024-03-09T17:36:25Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/0/1/01ec980f99a3b5fee1a13c0ba550e80051e4e40e.jpeg "They Are LYING To You (USCCA CEO Confronts Deceptive Claims)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13X9mIEKS0) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/e/4/e44ac8e16ebfa291879730def214ca86e980985f.jpeg "5 MISLEADING Claims About USCCA Membership That Are WRONG") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5hKjSlmwU) ---
**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/6 "2024-03-09T18:03:46Z")
Nuthatch, My views on this ongoing Horse shite is this Brother. IF you Train-up (and the USCCA’s training is better than this Competition) Use Situational Awareness Avoid going to stupid place, doing stupid things w/stupid people Have to use your Weapon(s) in a Defensive situation The USCCA will move Heaven and Earth to BACK you to a Successful win in the COURTS! Think on this for a second Brother, The SAME people ATTACKING the USCCA are trying to steal you for their benefit and Your Money ask yourself WHY are they so bent on discrediting us instead of PROVING to you how much better they are to us. I NEVER hear “well, we are better in this aspect than USCCA because…” All I here is whining and Falsehoods from them There are (800+) THOUSAND of us who believe in this Company, Community, Delta Insurance. Look at the Community members my friend, This isn’t a bunch of whiner’s and Amateur’s. You can fill VOLUMN’S with what the competition isn’t telling you. If your concerns come from YOUTUB or the MSM—get better sources. Editor’s note: I am NOT in the employ of any part of the USCCA, I am a member. ---
**Author:** ![Levi2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/levi2/32/16223_2.png) [@Levi2](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Levi2)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/7 "2024-03-09T20:04:50Z")
If it were me, I’d just call uscca and ask them about the specific cases you are concerned about, and ask them any additional questions you may have. Best to hear it directly from the horses mouth, so to speak. Edit: I’d also do my own research, based on the response from USCCA. The thing is, as you may know, there’s people out there that bash their competition, people/organizations they don’t agree with, and/or pass things they heard somewhere as fact instead of doing their homework. Not saying everyone out there is full of the brown, just take everything and do your best to discern fact from fiction. ---
**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/8 "2024-03-09T20:09:18Z")
OMFG… Here we go again. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Larry130](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/larry130/32/38689_2.png) [@Larry130](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Larry130)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/9 "2024-03-09T20:40:15Z")
Seriously, you believe U-Tube **and** the news? ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_J](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/albert_j/32/4351_2.png) [@Albert\_J](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Albert_J)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/10 "2024-03-09T21:26:58Z")
Why would you not want to talk about this? As someone who lives in the South (Eastern) part of the country, I’m particularly concerned with regard to large groups of young people who have been shown to engage in mass assault, where the victim is simply overwhelmed by attacks from multiple suspects. Many viral videos are available to demonstrate this threat. How does one effectively engage such attackers, and will a racial component be presented during any prosecution should one survive such an attack? ---
**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/11 "2024-03-09T21:44:07Z")
What are you even talking about??? My comment was about false claims made against USCCA again and again and again ad-nauseum. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_J](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/albert_j/32/4351_2.png) [@Albert\_J](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Albert_J)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/12 "2024-03-09T21:48:43Z")
Well then, perhaps you should clarify and elucidate your comment in the first place (which you did not). ---
**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/13 "2024-03-09T21:50:04Z")
Gee… I thought it was obvious. [Dropped self defence insurance - Legal & Second Amendment - USCCA Community (usconcealedcarry.com)](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/12) ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_J](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/albert_j/32/4351_2.png) [@Albert\_J](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Albert_J)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/14 "2024-03-09T21:54:30Z")
OMFG… Here we go again. ---
**Author:** ![BeanCounter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/beancounter/32/189234_2.png) [@BeanCounter](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BeanCounter)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/15 "2024-03-09T23:31:10Z")
> [@Nuthatch](#): > > what real assurances IMHO knowing what self-defense means is key. ---
**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/16 "2024-03-09T23:37:30Z")
![IMG_2300](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/7/8/78b47a6404fbd6bd16ed39a9e78c7c24ad3bc380.gif) ---
**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/17 "2024-03-09T23:49:47Z")
Hmmm… Taste’s oddly of buttered popcorn? 😋 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/c/7/c75c56969e1d57ae4e23a0045077bf1c7505d910.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/19 "2024-03-10T02:19:31Z")
TOUCHE ! munch, munch, munch, munch ---
**Author:** ![Chris278](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@Chris278](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Chris278)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/20 "2024-03-10T02:20:14Z")
I agree with you, Nathan57. All the stories or “rumors “ have turned out false. The “true” ones turn out to be “illegal” claims where what the supposed self defender actually did is break the law. Then, USCCA has no choice but to drop the claim as it is then an action against the law. eg you can’t aggravate the situation by calling someone names after pulling your gun to force an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Jerzees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/jerzees/32/111382_2.png) [@Jerzees](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Jerzees)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 3:40am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027/21 "2024-03-10T03:40:20Z")
Not knowing or be worried is not the same as trolling… no reason for false accusations. @Nuthatch , next time start with SEARCH to find answers to your questions before asking on new thread. Less stress, longer life. 😉 Happy reading 👇 > [@They Are LYING To You (USCCA CEO Confronts Deceptive Claims)](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/they-are-lying-to-you-uscca-ceo-confronts-deceptive-claims/97920): > > [[They Are LYING To You (USCCA CEO Confronts Deceptive Claims)] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13X9mIEKS0) [Next page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/dropped-self-defence-insurance/101027.md?page=2)