Direct violation of Federal Law. FOPA 1986


Anyone really surprised?


Like having family you don’t want.


Can someone please gently and patiently explain to me why we have the ATF?


What are A and T? We know what F is for.


It was originally created to collect taxes. True story. Like many government bureaucracies, it expanded and assumed many additional responsibilities beyond its initial charter. When prohibition hit the U.S., they switched from collecting sin taxes to enforcing vice laws.

Now, their main purpose seems to be regulating freedom so elected representatives don’t have to vote on such issues.


Ah, the unelected doing the job of the elected :roll_eyes:


I’m shocked.


A is for Alcohol - origins of moonshiners and illegal importing of alcohol.
T is for Tabacco -

  1. ATF is the federal law enforcement agency with primary jurisdiction over the Contraband Cigarette Trafficking Act to stop tobacco diversion or the interstate transportation, possession and sale of non-state tax-paid cigarettes and smokeless tobacco.
  2. Tobacco traffickers purchase cigarettes and/or other tobacco products from low tax states and sell them in high tax states. They can also use counterfeit tobacco that is manufactured or imported into the United States without any tax payment to be sold at a discounted price to consumers.
  3. ATF disrupts and dismantles criminal organizations by identifying and arresting offenders who traffic tobacco products, and conducts financial investigations with ongoing criminal investigations in order to seize and deny further access to assets and funds used by criminals and terrorist organizations.
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And E is for Explosives


I thought DEA covered explosives. WAIT, Drug Enforcement Administration

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is the federal agency primarily responsible for administering and enforcing the criminal and regulatory provisions of the federal laws pertaining to destructive devices (bombs), explosives, and arson.

Federal law enforcement agencies

  • U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations
  • U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division
  • U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
  • U.S. Capitol Police
  • U.S. Central Intelligence Agency
  • U.S. Coast Guard Investigative Service
  • U.S. Customs and Border Protection
  • U.S. Defense Criminal Investigative Service
  • U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency
  • U.S. Department of Homeland Security
  • U.S. Department of State’s Diplomatic Security Service
  • U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation

Combine the DEA and ATF and you get DEFEAT

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It was…a joke. F isn’t for firearms…


I knew where you were going with your first post. I assume @Todd30 just wanted to ensure your question, if serious, was answered appropriately. Next time, use an emoji to indicate your post was a joke. ATF - Acting and Talking Foolishly. Kind of like the Ministry of Silly Walks, but with the money being used less wisely… :sunglasses: