Criminals should be jailed!

I’ve tried many time to explain this… kill and murder at one time had the same meaning…

taking the life of an enemy in battle was called slaying…

the meaning of words have changed over the years… when I was in grade school the…

the dictionaries when I was much younger told us this… now you can’t find such in dictionaries…

unless you can find an old one in a book store…

eye of a needle at one time meant a doorway in the wall of middle eastern cities…

so during times of war and such was shaped like a camel so a camel could entire on it’s knees…

but those statements and definitions are so hard to find now…

the dumbing down of our nation is going strong…

and older book title was “Who Killed Cock Robin” it’s a MURDER mystery…

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SIR your understanding of Biblical verse is very different then mine…

not sure where you get yours… sounds WOKE in some aspects…

the verses you quote near as I can tell do NOT speak of enemies bent on killing you…

but of caring for you own???

going with what I garner from your view… the USA would have never gone to war in WWI or WWII???

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I’ve tried many time to explain this… kill and murder at one time had the same meaning…

When dealing with the Hebrew language there are a plethora of words to use for kill, in the 10 Commandments the word used is “tirtsach” which roughly means to kill without justification and done through premeditation. But other words used in the Torah for killing is “nakah” this is where you kill someone through an unjustified action but it was not your intention. Example, you get in a fist fight with your neighbor, you punch him, he falls and busts his head on the pavement. Next comes “gatal” which is seen when you kill someone in a justified action but there death was not your intention. Example, you beat your slave and they die, you were completely in your right to beat them, but you still killed them and so you will be punished but most likely get atonement through a sacrifice (another word for kill “zabach”) or really something minor. Then you have “tabach” this is the big one, this is when you lay waste to an entire nation, you kill them all. Then there is “harag” which is the term mostly seen when you justifiably slay someone.

The commandment “You shall not murder” underscores the sanctity of human life, which is created in the image of G-d.
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Yes, the Bible distinguishes between killing and murder, with murder being the unlawful taking of a life.

Explanation

  • Killing

A general term that can refer to the ending of a life in a violent way. Killing can be intentional or unintentional.

Examples

  • The Bible permits killing in self-defense, such as in Exodus 22:2.
  • The Bible also describes circumstances where God commands killing as punishment for sin.
  • The Bible condemns violence and associates it with wickedness.

Biblical passages

  • Exodus 20:13 says, “You shall not murder”.
  • Numbers 35:27 says, “the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder”.
  • Numbers 35:30 says, “Anyone who kills a person is to be put to death as a murderer only on the testimony of witnesses”.
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In the Bible, killing is the act of taking a life, while murder is the unlawful taking of a life. The Bible allows killing in certain circumstances, such as self-defense, but forbids murder.

Explanation

  • Killing

A general term that can be lawful or unlawful. For example, a driver accidentally killing a pedestrian is not considered murder.

Examples of justified killing

  • Killing in self-defense
  • Killing to save an innocent person from imminent danger
  • Killing in combat during a war
  • Execution of murderers by a state

Bible verses

  • Exodus 22:2 permits killing in self-defense.
  • Genesis 9:6 states that capital punishment is a commandment from God to Noah after the flood.

Related concepts

The difference between killing and murder is also a legal distinction. The distinction between legal and illegal use of deadly force is based on motive, intent, and justification.

In your examples of Biblical Passages if you look at the Hebrew text the words for kill and murder used in the Numbers passages are quite different than the word used in Exodus 20:13 which is “tirtsach” which is the same word used in the 10 Commandments.

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I think you are getting a little caught up in our 21th century mentality and trying to apply it to a Bronze Age people. For Jews living during this time the concept equality was not a thing, women were not equal to men, slaves were not equal to women, and foreigners were not equal to slaves. If I were to intentionally kill my Jewish neighbor or a member of his family the penalty might of been death, but not always. King David absolutely committed “tirtsach” and was not killed. If I killed my Jewish neighbors slave or a foreigner under his roof, it would not come to “tirtsach”.

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I am more concerned with the difference between killing and murder. To me it is all about morals and conscience. What is it about for you?

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I am more concerned with the difference between killing and murder. To me it is all about morals and conscience. What is it about for you?

It’s the dilemma of consequence versus outcome. I lack faith in the justice system and at my age I no longer worry about about being imprisoned or executed. If anything I view it as a book reading vacation before death. But rest assured anyone I put into a hole, deserved to be there.

And before the USCCA hired Insurance Lawyers lose their crap over that response, I most certainly would not be calling them if I were arrested for taking the law into my hands. There is no fine line between defense and taking the law into ones own hands.

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I can respect that fortitude. I also have respect for you. It makes a good combination.

oops my bad I was talking about english language definitions in the past…

guess i should have specified that… wait can I blame Wanda3???

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Eight to eighty blind, cripple or crazy !

Lot’s of interesting points, some of which I agree with. Sometimes the truth is not easy to accept.

You had me, until the proposal I move to China or Russia. To me, personally, like saying Mr. Cody Lundin’s toes are soft and supple. I’d be afraid a team would snatch me out of my bed at night.

I’ll go back to “living under a rock” now. LOL. :blush: