Benefits of 5 O’clock?

Not for ladies in skirts… :rofl:

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I am a discreet draw fan. Another advantage of 5 o’clock is it looks like you are reaching for your wallet if the confrontation is robbery.

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:thinking: good thought!

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Bend over with 5 oclock carry and watch the gun print.

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It can also print when you sit…I used to think carrying at the 4 printed less than AIWB. Then my wife kindly told me I needed to put a cushion behind me so the gun didn’t rip my office chair. I thought she was joking at first. Then she handed me a pillow.

Because of that, I realized carrying at the 4 while standing I print less but anything else I print more. I just didn’t know it because I didn’t see it.

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Do you carry those dominant side or support side, @Zavier_D? Or one each? :thinking:

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Cool That was Awsome

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Both support side. One at 7 and 8.

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The two that I carry, and I know you carry at least two, are clipped in my left and right front pockets. As l look quite pacifistic, which I am, when close relatives and friends learn what I carry, aside from a firearm, they are quite surprised. It at times leads to some interesting self-defense and firearm-related conversations. You have posted more than several pictures of those lovely knives. I like them a lot. Unfortunately, double-bladed knives are illegal in Virginia.

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10 o’clock, I’m a lefty. My cell is at 3 o’clock as a decoy😉

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Me too!

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I carry anywhere from 4-8 knives. 1 in each pocket of my front pockets so may have 4 if it’s cargo pants, and the 2 Kerambits, so I have at a minimum 4. Then I may have a couple others.

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I always have one on me, it’s force of habit. I never know when I would need one when outdoors. I used to carry 2 but the butter was getting everywhere.:wink:

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I carry a knife but I want to get another Leatherman to also carry just for the tools if anything.

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I was looking at the elbow maneuver as more of a distraction, to keep the focus away from the other hand that’s reaching for the gun. I’m new to this, though, so please don’t laugh at me :grin::roll_eyes:

Benefits of 5:00?

Long Islands or bourbon!

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This is not 5 o clock. Or 4 o clock. This is the rear of 3 o clock position. A hybrid position that works really well because your body will naturally put your hand on the gun there with his style of draw/elbow spear.

Think the majority of people here have never been in a true life or death self defense situation so most of us should be considered new to this despite our varying levels of training and practice;) Since every situation is different there is no one best response and all these discussions are theoretical. In the case of the technique shown in the video you could say he is hoping to distract the attacker by striking him. From the training I have had and the situations I have studied, it seems to me that when someone is that close it is best to focus all your body parts on getting them off of you instead of tying one arm behind your back trying to get to your gun. The exception maybe being if they have you wrapped up on the ground in a way that allows you to get to your weapon. There are many situations were real distractions can work though. For example, I carry a throw away money clip which I can toss on the ground or hold up in the air to create a distraction allowing me to run away or discreetly draw depending on the situation.

Other fun benefit of 5 ocklock is it’s easily reached by both hands :grin:!

3:00 is what’s most comfortable for me though. I appendix if I’m just going to be in the car for a short trip, but if I’ll be walking or bending a lot appendix doesn’t work well and I go for 3:00. I think 3:00 is pretty versatile, you can still look the gun into the holster, it’s closer forward And it would be harder for someone to take than 5:00. I think drawing from 3:00 is pretty natural. If your shooting from retention it’s just straight up instead of across the body. Trouble with 3:00 is you need a pretty thin gun to get away with it (or a really loose shirt. My Shield fits the role perfect :raised_hands:

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I tried to practice today and I just can’t get the holster even into that position. The best I can do is a 3:30. LOL. Oh well, Im very comfortable with appendix at this point