# As a white guy, responding to the issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Current Events\ **Created:** [June 10, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053 "2020-06-10T04:24:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ouade5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8491ac/32.png) [@Ouade5](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ouade5)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/21 "2020-06-10T20:38:14Z")
Understood. I guess I should start my opinions with “As a grumpy, old, straight, white, relatively religious, nature loving, just trying to pay the bills, Bill of Rights supporting, liberal, snake-hating cheesehead…” ---
**Author:** ![OldGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/oldgnome/32/30877_2.png) [@OldGnome](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/OldGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/22 "2020-06-10T21:00:26Z")
@Ouade5 - that pretty much describes me to a T. ---
**Author:** ![Scoutbob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/scoutbob/32/158375_2.png) [@Scoutbob](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Scoutbob)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/23 "2020-06-10T21:18:02Z")
I’ve watched some of this guys stuff. I like him so far. I’ve also started following these guys. They are hilarious. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/1/4/14c9a82e67cf9e8da9b6512863bff52fbf588d93.jpeg "Drew Brees Faces Backlash For Remarks About Taking A Knee During The National Anthem!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnCzs5GQPE) ---
**Author:** ![Alexander8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alexander8](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Alexander8)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/24 "2020-06-10T21:36:06Z")
Ah, you are starting to grasp the concept of intersectionality! Pretty good for a white guy. ---
**Author:** ![Craig6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Craig6](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Craig6)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/25 "2020-06-10T21:38:00Z")
$h!t. Minorities? I am the ultimate minority. White American Mutt Christian Straight Virgo Only married once, never divorced Both kids are ours, no extra’s In 6 days we go over 30 years married (I have now officially been “Home” more than deployed, been retired since 09’) 24 year Navy Retired (Combat Veteran X 7, # of Combat Action Ribbons) Navy Chief Petty Officer Didn’t graduate college until I retired and did it working 40+ Started with nothing and still have most of it left. I’ve not walked a mile in a black man’s shoes and I would dare say there are many a black/brown/green/yellow/purple men that has not walked a mile in my boots and that’s OK because I hope to God that no more young Americans need to walk my mile but my mile was just as costly as yours and I will respect yours if you respect mine. I can get behind a protest, I went to Richmond, what I can’t get behind is wanton destruction for destruction’s sake. When BLM came out there was a real possibility that it could have done some good things, but then it was corrupted. It captured the news media and America but instead of focusing on helping the black community and taking on the ugly truth of black on black violence it became a hate group and stopped having REAL conversations. Throw in a couple ANTIFA , a few broken store windows and free (undefended) stuff inside and the whole thing turned into a $h!t show. Add the Democratic party throwing more free stuff and less rules around and it is a perfect storm. I’ll stop here with a final thought. In the 1950-60’s Blacks were kept down by the Democrats across the country. The Civil Rights Act was shoved down LBJ’s throat by the Republicans. After a brief time the Democrats began dispensing “Social Crack” to the black community until they had built an entire racial voting block dependent on the Democrat party for more “free stuff”, “welfare babies” was a real term in the 70’s and now the rate of unwed black mothers in the US are at 75%. Now it’s two generations of poor black folks (yes broad brush) that have relatively few options to get out and become successful. The Democrats have built this BASE one welfare check at a time and quite frankly some Republicans have aided in it also so there is plenty of blame to go around. Cheers, Craig6 ---
**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/26 "2020-06-10T22:03:27Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thxnvvmFtOw) Candace Owens tells it like it is. I hope she has security. This should be played before Congress. ---
**Author:** ![AlexV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/alexv/32/13494_2.png) [@AlexV](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/AlexV)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/27 "2020-06-10T22:07:48Z")
Thanks, @Stephen22. It was a short but interesting interview. I believe his comments support the second part of my post. When he says stop talking about “it,” I hear “our differences,” not everything related to these issues. Burying a problem is never an answer. Trouble is, no bi-racial (or multi-racial) meetings have been able to start a rational discussion that didn’t quickly evolve into a shouting match, or worse. Maybe it will cool down enough to facilitate rational discussion - maybe some day. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff-A1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/jeff-a1/32/8025_2.png) [@Jeff-A1](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Jeff-A1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/28 "2020-06-10T22:10:51Z")
Congratulations on making it to your 30 year anniversary Chief! Keep the FAITH! ---
**Author:** ![AlexV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/alexv/32/13494_2.png) [@AlexV](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/AlexV)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/29 "2020-06-10T22:15:00Z")
> [@Craig6](#): > > The Civil Rights Act was shoved down LBJ’s throat by the Republicans. I just found this on [factcheck.org](http://factcheck.org): “But then President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed through the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (outlawing segregation in public places) and his eventual Republican opponent, Sen. Barry Goldwater, opposed it. Johnson got 94 percent of the black vote that year, still a record for any presidential election.” No mention of any Republicans shoving anything down Johnson’s throat. Quite the opposite, it looks to me like a shrewd political move that paid off. Ref: [Blacks and the Democratic Party - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/) ---
**Author:** ![Craig6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Craig6](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Craig6)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/30 "2020-06-10T22:38:32Z")
I find differently based on numbers and percentages based on actual votes. [https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/](https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/) Cheers, Craig6 ---
**Author:** ![Craig6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Craig6](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Craig6)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/31 "2020-06-10T22:39:34Z")
There are still 6 days to go … Cheers, Craig6 ---
**Author:** ![AlexV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/alexv/32/13494_2.png) [@AlexV](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/AlexV)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/32 "2020-06-10T23:20:31Z")
@Craig6, I checked up on the “Daily Signal” as a reference and found them to be judged as leaning right, but no false facts have been reported. I read the article you referenced and found “Originally proposed in 1963 by former President John F. Kennedy, a Democrat, the bill ended segregation in public places and made employment discrimination illegal.” and “The House passed the bill after 70 days of public hearings and testimony in a 290-130 vote. The bill received 152 “yea” votes from Democrats, or 60 percent of their party, and 138 votes from Republicans, or 78 percent of their party.” If JFK proposed it and LBJ presented it, how is that shoving it down LBJ’s throat? 60% of Democrats and 78% Republicans voted for it - we should be so lucky to see anything l;ike that kind of bi-partisan support for anything on today’s docket. (Okay, maybe a pay raise 🙂) We may have gotten off on a tangent here. If you want to drop this, I’m okay with agreeing to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![larry84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@larry84](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/larry84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/33 "2020-06-10T23:36:09Z")
The unfortunet take away statement in your comment “shrewd political move”. I see this race scene as nothing more than politics. I support real reform, people must be respected and treated as equals. It is hard for people not to notice color, or features each time they look at another person. to say differently is a bald face lie. We will not change due to the removal of history from our books and buildings. I have enjoyed all of the people that I have been able to meet around the world, some more than others, but I enjoyed them just the same. My life is no less hard than most and the breaks I amy have received are no more that anyone else’s that tried to better themselves. I went to the same schools and worked at jobs that anyone could have had. Worked nights went to school in the daytime, just like anyone else can do, I am not special nor am I dirt under anyone’s feet. “All men are created equal” the meaning has not changed. Larry ---
**Author:** ![Craig6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Craig6](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Craig6)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/34 "2020-06-11T00:05:10Z")
I don’t mind a good spirited debate but it may not be germane to this thread. I actually did this topic for my masters when the professor was suggesting the opposite. There is a whole lot of political shuffling and shaking that went on at that time. The synthesized version is half of the Dems were against and half on the fence but SOMETHING had to be done and the Repubs held the keys and when it came down to it they had the the power play. Hence in the last vote the Dems caved. After that the evidence speaks for itself on social issues “for the children” or “for the poor” or “for …”. IMHO the Dems turned from a party of repression to a party of dependence, the black family was the price. Cheers, Craig6 ---
**Author:** ![Kevin29](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/kevin29/32/3432_2.png) [@Kevin29](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Kevin29)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/35 "2020-06-11T00:42:44Z")
I would ask you to actually consider what ‘white privilege’ is. I do not accept ‘white privilege’, there is no ‘white privilege’. It is a political construct to establish your guilt for something you did not do, and decides you have no possible defense, all based on the color of your skin. ---
**Author:** ![OldGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/oldgnome/32/30877_2.png) [@OldGnome](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/OldGnome)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/36 "2020-06-11T00:47:29Z")
> [@Kevin29](#): > > I do not accept ‘white privilege’, there is no ‘white privilege’. It is a political construct to establish your guilt for something you did not do, and decides you have no possible defense, all based on the color of your skin. Yes. This, precisely. ---
**Author:** ![Stephen22](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/stephen22/32/3475_2.png) [@Stephen22](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Stephen22)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/37 "2020-06-11T00:47:45Z")
I simply saw Mr. Freeman saying "Stop segregating yourselves with things like your own history month, your own TV channel, your own race-based political organization. If we quit calling out our differences so often, we’d become blind to them. ---
**Author:** ![AlexV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/alexv/32/13494_2.png) [@AlexV](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/AlexV)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/38 "2020-06-11T01:51:24Z")
> [@Stephen22](#): > > If we quit calling out our differences so often, we’d become blind to them. > [@AlexV](#): > > When he says stop talking about “it,” I hear “our differences,” not everything related to these issues. Sounds to me like we are in agreement! ---
**Author:** ![Alexander8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alexander8](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Alexander8)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/39 "2020-06-11T03:08:48Z")
> [@Stephen22](#): > > I simply saw Mr. Freeman saying "Stop segregating yourselves Obsolete terminology, the progressive word is “intersectional”. It is a good thing, we have an entire department at work devoted to shoving it in everyone’s face. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alexander8](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Alexander8)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053/40 "2020-06-11T03:11:46Z")
> [@AlexV](#): > > Trouble is, no bi-racial (or multi-racial) meetings have been able to start a rational discussion that didn’t quickly evolve into a shouting match Allow me to propose a solution. Before the meeting starts, you ask anyone who considers themselves victims to raise their hand, then, you kick their sorry behinds out of the room. [Previous page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/as-a-white-guy-responding-to-the-issues/28053.md?page=3)