# Another Shooting that is in California

**URL:** <https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426>\
**Category:** Guns & Gear\
**Created:** [January 22, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426 "2023-01-22T13:41:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/21 "2023-01-23T05:03:30Z")

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I don’t think it will do any good we arrest people for killing and people still kill. I think the problem is people think weapons are for killing. (Well not most people.) The media capitalized on that. Politicians capitalize on the media or vice a versa.

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**Author:** ![William\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/william_h/32/107834_2.png) [@William\_H](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/William_H)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/22 "2023-01-23T13:01:21Z")

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Watch “Illinois State Rifle Association files federal lawsuit against Illinois’ gun ban” on YouTube

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/b/7/b7349dd2441a376145d54eaa56f4d146536e87d1.jpeg "Illinois State Rifle Association files federal lawsuit against Illinois' gun ban") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDYgb_N2NtI)

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**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/23 "2023-01-23T13:07:16Z")

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104 deaths per day is the US average for motor vehicle accidents

Just randomly throwing out something as a reference to put the number 6 into perspective. Consider exactly how strictly the nation enforced traffic laws and how much thought people put into the safety of their vehicles and how much media and politician time and attention the two get.

Just sayin’

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**Author:** ![William\_H](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/william_h/32/107834_2.png) [@William\_H](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/William_H)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/24 "2023-01-23T13:14:03Z")

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Many Men and Women were brought up by Parents  
that had good hearts and morals or by good people  
People that trained children to be responsible. They  
made a positive decision to be law abiding citizens.

The people that commented crimes made a decision to  
break laws, taking drugs and chemicals to escape  
reality, but they had to make their mind up to use a firearm illegally and take a life.

Last, their are people that have made mistakes and  
they went through major problems, but they made that  
Choice to Live their Life in the correct way and they too are Law Abiding Men and Women. There is still hope.

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**Author:** ![GrayMan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/grayman/32/28429_2.png) [@GrayMan](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/GrayMan)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/25 "2023-01-23T14:25:14Z")

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The USSC leak was probably one of the Justices, and none of them are going to fess-up or accuse another.

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**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/26 "2023-01-23T15:07:49Z")

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Read a report that the firearm used was a Cobray M11 9mm. I suspect that is not on the CA approved handgun list. Though the report also said authorities were able to link the firearm to the shooter which, if true, suggests he purchased it legally. Perhaps before the ban?

At any rate, this won’t fit well into the media’s racist white gun owners meme. Looks like it was a member of the local Asian community. Likely another angry incel who insists on taking a bunch of innocent people out before offing themselves. Though in this case it was an older man instead of a young one. So we may not get the usual internet manifesto stating how they had to do it because everyone treated them like the losers they are.

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**Author:** ![Arnie\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/arnie_w/32/63361_2.png) [@Arnie\_W](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Arnie_W)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/27 "2023-01-23T15:52:01Z")

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It is my personal belief is that they know. For reasons known only to them they are not letting it out

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**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/28 "2023-01-23T17:20:02Z")

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I agree, I have a sinking feeling it was one of “them”. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Reloader54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/reloader54/32/560_2.png) [@Reloader54](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Reloader54)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/29 "2023-01-23T18:31:30Z")

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I just saw a post on FB that Pelosi did call some priests to do just that at her home.

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**Author:** ![Scott52](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/scott52/32/160942_2.png) [@Scott52](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Scott52)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/30 "2023-01-23T18:33:48Z")

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I’ve provided a line up, don’t worry, it’s one way glass.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/1/e/1ea17912f53af2fcc8cd5f328950019cbf8428ad.jpeg)

They’ve been compromised!

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**Author:** ![Ouade5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8491ac/32.png) [@Ouade5](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ouade5)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/31 "2023-01-23T18:43:44Z")

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> [@Reloader54](#):
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> I just saw a post on FB that Pelosi did call some priests

😉

![OIP](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/6/4/644d59d7e1e59b9d6c8b0f1780eab439f0511008.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![William191](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/william191/32/49375_2.png) [@William191](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/William191)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/32 "2023-01-23T21:42:47Z")

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> [@Ouade5](#):
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> all the natural resources and economic opportunities to be a paradise

Would have loved to lived there back in the 50’s. I didn’t come along until ‘61 though.

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**Author:** ![deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@deactivated](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/deactivated)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/33 "2023-01-24T03:01:23Z")

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Yeah. These incidents are sad, but they also don’t help our cause per se.

Each incident results in law-abiding citizens losing some freedoms or paying more.

In California this weekend, that perpetrator was in his lower 70’s. This one made me think how challenging it is to reduce these incidences.

As many have pointed out in other pages, it requires tackling it from multi fronts, mental health, and starting out educating our youth early.

In this case, the assailant then committed suicide. If you take the firearm out of the equation, and he still killed himself, I ask one think about “Could someone have caught his mental health signs and could someone have intervened?” Some, not all.

Enforcement seems laxed.

Despite my concerns of loss of more freedoms, after the next set of laws gets passed this year, they may propose even more strict laws. It seems like more change will come, a repeated cycle. Especially considering how strict the laws are in Canada, Mexico, and the UK.

I’d rather if changes be made, that I or we be part of the discussion, instead of just being reactive.

**Check out the brave hero though, facing the assailant, around the time of one of two possible attacks**

> **[Surveillance video shows moment man disarms Monterey Park shooter](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/surveillance-video-shows-moment-man-disarms-monterey-park-shooter/vi-AA16F8Dh?cvid=53708ed2abfa47b2ac83b6b23fdd11ea)**
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> Surveillance video obtained exclusively by NBC News shows the moment a man disarms the gunman who killed multiple people moments earlier at a Lunar New Year celebration in Monterey Park, Calif. Brandon Tsay is seen on video struggling with and taking...

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**Author:** ![BRUCE26](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/bruce26/32/111546_2.png) [@BRUCE26](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BRUCE26)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/34 "2023-01-24T03:22:37Z")

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And again???

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/9/b/9ba7502fcd457a868d94571b2dee4c259dc64108.jpeg "At least seven dead in shootings in Half Moon Bay, CA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56TkZDBCkB4)

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/9/a/9a1d5ca1bac8fcfe3f6c1902695b6f88d44b9426.jpeg "Breaking | Another California mass shooting on farm leaves 7 dead in Half Moon Bay") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rNdKRjDqA)

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**Author:** ![Ouade5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8491ac/32.png) [@Ouade5](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ouade5)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/35 "2023-01-24T03:34:15Z")

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> [@deactivated](#):
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> In California this weekend, that perpetrator was in his lower 70’s.

I saw that headline tonight, and was quite surprised. That’s not a typical profile for a “mass shooter.” But I also read that it may have stemmed from a domestic situation. That, unfortunately, is not so uncommon.

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**Author:** ![Johnnyq60](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/johnnyq60/32/181828_2.png) [@Johnnyq60](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Johnnyq60)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/36 "2023-01-24T13:47:27Z")

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I am surprised that this is happening in the Asian community. I have dealt with a lot of Asians and they are the most humblest of people. And the shooters in both cases were older Asian men, that’s crazy. That young kid Brandon is definitely a hero in my book.

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**Author:** ![Arnie\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/arnie_w/32/63361_2.png) [@Arnie\_W](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Arnie_W)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/37 "2023-01-24T14:17:36Z")

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I have that notion also

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**Author:** ![Brad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/brad/32/9565_2.png) [@Brad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Brad)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/38 "2023-01-24T16:11:40Z")

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Just like any box of people, they aren’t all the same.

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**Author:** ![Sinbad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Sinbad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Sinbad)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/39 "2023-01-24T16:18:54Z")

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I found this video hard to watch quietly. I wanted to yell “shoot him” at the screen. He had the gun pointed at the bad guy multiple times. Did he not know how to use it or was he unwilling to shoot?

I don’t mean to criticize a hero. He prevailed so pulling the trigger wasn’t necessary. Huge props and kudos to this guy.

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**Author:** ![Johnnyq60](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/johnnyq60/32/181828_2.png) [@Johnnyq60](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Johnnyq60)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/another-shooting-that-is-in-california/88426/40 "2023-01-24T16:56:24Z")

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You got that right @Brad

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