# A Small but Important Step towards School Safety

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**Category:** News & Current Events\
**Created:** [November 16, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595 "2023-11-16T16:25:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/1 "2023-11-16T16:25:43Z")

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> **[Bill would allow some Utah school employees to be trained as armed 'guardians'](https://www.ksl.com/article/50790649/bill-would-allow-some-utah-school-employees-to-be-trained-as-armed-guardians)**
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> A task force on Wednesday recommended a bill that would require every school in Utah to have an armed school employee present on campus whenever school is in session.

We’ll have to wait and see if they actually do all of this but, to me, it seems to be a step in the right direction.

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**Author:** ![Sinbad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Sinbad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Sinbad)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/2 "2023-11-16T16:54:42Z")

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As much as I support this concept, I don’t support government mandating it to private schools who are receiving no tax dollars to support their school. They simply don’t have “jurisdiction” to force this on non-government or non-government funded schools.

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/3 "2023-11-16T18:18:22Z")

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Wow that is a step in the opposite direction. Last time I was in SLC I saw a sign in a grocery store that said no guns. That was the only place I saw that sigh in a grocery store.

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/4 "2023-11-16T18:27:42Z")

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Was that “Whole Foods” cause I don’t see them around here very often. Not so much since the passage of the “Constitutional Carry Law”.

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/5 "2023-11-16T18:30:52Z")

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Sprouts

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**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/6 "2023-11-16T18:32:46Z")

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Yea they tend to lean to the Left side of the 2A conversation.

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**Author:** ![Mark697](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mark697](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mark697)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/7 "2023-11-16T18:41:13Z")

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Often “private schools” are not private at all, but receive per student allotments from tax dollars. That’s why “public schools” resist school choice because they lose “their” per student allotments to the “private schools” that compete with them.

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/8 "2023-11-16T18:42:21Z")

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Hopefully but not counting on it they will catch on when schools have less shootings when they have armed teachers.

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**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/9 "2023-11-16T18:44:17Z")

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Trouble with that could be that school shootings are _so rare_ it’s hard to get much in the way of statistics just due to how uncommon they are to begin with.

But one statistic it could help is the huge % of “mass killing event” type big name shootings that seem to always happen where it’s illegal for anyone but the criminal to have a gun.

We have seen the reports of recent school shooters bypassing schools that had LEO/armed guards/whatever…so the principle is starting to show. But…we need _a lot_ of schools to change

I’m rambling. Statistics or not it’s good, even if the stats don’t generate for awhile due to such low occurrences, it’s still the right direction

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**Author:** ![Robert1246](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/robert1246/32/39522_2.png) [@Robert1246](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert1246)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/10 "2023-11-16T18:51:20Z")

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I gave you a thumbs up. Not that you’re rambling but that you noticed it.

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**Author:** ![Sinbad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Sinbad](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Sinbad)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/11 "2023-11-17T14:52:07Z")

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Where my kids attend school they do not accept a dime of government funding. They take this posture knowing as soon as you accept the funding you accept some level of control. “With shekels come shackles.”

Admittedly, I tend to look at private education from my very narrow sliver of a perspective. I appreciate you pointing out that some private schools do get tax dollars.

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**Author:** ![Mark697](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mark697](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mark697)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/a-small-but-important-step-towards-school-safety/96595/12 "2023-11-17T17:15:24Z")

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Too bad private education at schools that do not accept public money does not exempt parents from paying the public school taxes levied on their property taxes. But, educating your children free from the craziness our schools have become is a good thing.
