# 18 Year olds - Open Carry **URL:** \ **Category:** News & Current Events\ **Created:** [February 4, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956 "2025-02-04T22:37:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank261](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/frank261/32/124704_2.png) [@Frank261](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Frank261)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/25 "2025-02-05T11:15:33Z")
The military did not initiate that withdrawal willingly, it was a political decision. Our military is controlled by our civilian government. Our military wanted a more prudent gradual withdrawal timetable that would have allowed for force protection, and conservation of resources, equipment, especially weapons. But, Joe decided on that hasty abandonment that left our troops vulnerable. I hate when politicians don’t listen to the military when making these decisions. You don’t just turn tail and run, there are better ways to withdraw, there was no tactical imperative to make a haphazard withdrawal, that was totally a political choice. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/26 "2025-02-05T12:06:27Z")
Please explain how infringing on the Rights of 18 year olds by not allowing them to carry a handgun legally, will prevent suicide. I’ll wait ---
**Author:** ![Timothy330](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@Timothy330](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Timothy330)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/27 "2025-02-05T15:25:30Z")
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. If you can carry a firearm FOR your country you should be able to carry a firearm IN you country. ---
**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/28 "2025-02-05T15:36:57Z")
I graduated from both BCT and AIT before my 18th birthday but then again, I was raised around and shot a lot of guns in my pre-teen/teen years before enlisting. ---
**Author:** ![deranged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deranged](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/deranged)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/29 "2025-02-05T16:04:13Z")
Old enough to open carry in the military, old enough to open carry period if they choose to. ---
**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/30 "2025-02-05T18:36:38Z")
@Nathan57 🤔 🤣 🤣 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Ron43xMOS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/ron43xmos/32/137450_2.png) [@Ron43xMOS](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ron43xMOS)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/32 "2025-02-05T19:52:10Z")
> [@Robert1025](#): > > Firearms are the leading cause of death for those 18–20 years old??? Actually, it’s fentanyl for age 18 up to 34. ---
**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/33 "2025-02-05T19:53:54Z")
There were a couple of us trainees that the DI’s picked out on the first range day to help the kids that had never handled/shot a firearm. ---
**Author:** ![Ilan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/779978/32.png) [@Ilan1](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ilan1)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/35 "2025-02-05T20:38:00Z")
Hopefully, the great state of Florida will follow. ---
**Author:** ![ZoldFrog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/zoldfrog/32/124569_2.png) [@ZoldFrog](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/ZoldFrog)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/36 "2025-02-05T21:13:06Z")
Welcome to the community, Ilan, we’re thankful that you’ve joined and hope that you enjoy your time online with us! Take care & be well ---
**Author:** ![Zavier\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/zavier_d/32/13235_2.png) [@Zavier\_D](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Zavier_D)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/37 "2025-02-05T22:51:21Z")
> [@General\_Consensus](#): > > Firearms are the leading cause of death for young people ages 18 to 20, and the firearm suicide rate among this group has increased 41% in the last decade. Eighteen to 20-year-olds commit gun homicides at triple the rate of adults 21 years and older. I’m sympathetic to your pov of view. But you do realize that your 41% increase through the use of statistics looks like a big scary number **“_until_”** you put the actual numbers to the increase. There’s alot more wrong with your statement that I don’t want to get in a pissing contest over but you are being misled on several key points or your citations are using statistics rather than the actual numbers to make the situation look far more dire than it actually is. _I am not saying you are being deceitful, I want to be clear on that._ I am saying that there are some nuances and factual differences in your source material. Again, I am sympathetic to your position but when dealing in a sensitive topic such as this. It pays to be correct. Using the CDC as my source > **[Products - Data Briefs - Number 509 - September 2024](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db509.htm)** > > Published: 9/26/2024 _Between 2020 and 2022, rates decreased for males ages 10–14 (3.6 deaths per 100,000 population to 2.8) and 15–24 (22.4 to 21.1), while rates increased for males age 25 and older._ ---
**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/38 "2025-02-06T02:00:44Z")
You guys … I am not against 18 year olds carrying also I don’t think guns kill people, people use guns to kill people big difference … What I did was report numbers that I have read… It was only meant to give you a reason why idiots think or see the numbers and want to do something to stop it … This is why in my very first post i said … > [@General\_Consensus](#): > > I still don’t think you should punish everyone for the behavior of a few … > Like most things, I feel it has to do with education … The education is not only for the kids. The parents to recognize when a kid is in trouble … I try to explain the numbers. I put it different ways so you can understand the outrage people feel… To help you understand, where they might be coming from. Even if it is an uneducated one … Instead of going to someone like your neighbor … Man you are a foocking idiot guns don’t kill people … You lose them right there… Try to educate them to spot the the real problem and use the numbers to scare them … To pay more attention to those they love and support them. Find them help to resolve their personal issues… I do not make the numbers. I report them … This is what I have read. I think it is a very bad trend and would love everyone’s help to change these numbers… ---
**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/39 "2025-02-06T02:18:59Z")
> [@Ron43xMOS](#): > > Actually, it’s fentanyl for age 18 up to 34. I do not disagree … The numbers I used was to reflect 18 to 21 … the difference in when you should be able to carry and when you can… It had to do with recent increase of deaths… If you want to change the laws you need to change the culture in most cases… Getting these numbers down with education… How to spot problems … Like @Enzo_T did with teaching his girl first because boys are stupid 🤣 We need to also see that people get the help they need emotionally to reduce these numbers … > [@Zavier\_D](#): > > I’m sympathetic to your pov of view. But you do realize that your 41% increase through the use of statistics looks like a big scary number **“_until_”** you put the actual numbers to the increase. People used to ask me … Hey is your owner still an ahole … I would tell them he is 100% better than what he used to be… Sadly he was 10% a good guy and well being 100% better still is only 20% so he was still 80% ahole … 🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Robert\_G](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Robert_G)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/40 "2025-02-08T11:03:38Z")
I think it is alright for an 18 year old with proper training to carry since they are given a rifle in the service and told to defend the country. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/41 "2025-02-08T13:46:27Z")
What education will reduce the numbers of teenage gang members shooting each other? ---
**Author:** ![General\_Consensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/general_consensus/32/129258_2.png) [@General\_Consensus](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/General_Consensus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/42 "2025-02-08T14:25:38Z")
@Nathan57 This is a true story … [https://tubitv.com/movies/487941/life-of-a-king?start=true&tracking=google-feed&utm\_source=google-feed](https://tubitv.com/movies/487941/life-of-a-king?start=true&tracking=google-feed&utm_source=google-feed) If you can give hope and show a way out of of this cycle most will take it… You can not save every puppy in the pound … You should feed them … This includes the mind… ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/43 "2025-02-08T14:33:21Z")
Is that a true story of nationwide (or even statewide) teenage gang members shooting each other have a significant reduction as a result of education that we can scale up and repeat? Otherwise…what education will reduce the numbers of teenage gang members shooting each other? ---
**Author:** ![Will\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/will_b/32/102791_2.png) [@Will\_B](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Will_B)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/44 "2025-02-08T15:46:33Z")
![IMB_E8GeON](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/e/d/ed2859255bef4ccf2218c9057674fc79e1274ba3.gif) .44 mag at 11yo ---
**Author:** ![Mike164](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/mike164/32/52494_2.png) [@Mike164](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Mike164)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/45 "2025-02-08T16:51:43Z")
> [@General\_Consensus](#): > > If you can give hope and show a way out of of this cycle most will take it… We invite/Welcome the street kids/gang members into our gym and many show up. In our experience “most” don’t take to civilized life, in fact most return to the street/gang life. ---
**Author:** ![BeanCounter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/beancounter/32/173526_2.png) [@BeanCounter](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/BeanCounter)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956/46 "2025-02-08T17:53:17Z")
> [@Nathan57](#): > > What education will reduce the numbers of teenage gang members shooting each other? 🎶 imagine all the people Living life in peace Yoo-hoo-topia 🎶 [Previous page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/18-year-olds-open-carry/112956.md?page=3)